Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc6506bis-03
Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com> Wed, 04 December 2013 18:22 UTC
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From: Acee Lindem <acee.lindem@ericsson.com>
To: "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" <manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com>, Brian Weis <bew@cisco.com>, "<secdir@ietf.org>" <secdir@ietf.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc6506bis-03
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I tend to agree with Manav - this seems to be a rather extreme measure and wouldn't be used by a router line card simply to prioritize a packet. Thanks, Acee On 12/4/13 8:29 AM, "Bhatia, Manav (Manav)" <manav.bhatia@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: >Hi Brian, > >Thanks for the review. I have a comment inline. >> >> But now RFC 5879 ("Heuristics for Detecting ESP-NULL Packets") has been >> published, which does describe some techniques to deterministically >> detect an unencrypted ESP packet. It may be still be difficult to >> prioritize certain OSPFv3 packets, but the justification is no longer >> precisely accurate. I would suggest something like the following >> rewording: > >The justification still holds good as I don't think we will ever use >heuristics for detecting ESP-NULL control packets that need to be >consumed. > >Its afaik primarily meant for firewalls that want to deep inspect >packets. Obviously, there is nothing there in the standard that precludes >it from being implemented on router's CPU path, but I doubt if we will >ever go down that path. If this is really required on the routers, then >WESP (RFC 5840) will probably be the path to go down on -- but that would >require protocol extensions. > >Cheers, Manav > >> >> Implementations desiring to prioritize certain OSPFv3 packet types, >> e.g., Hello packets, over the other types, often perform the >> prioritization prior to decryption. Parsing ESP packets is >> problematic >> when the prioritization code does not know whether the ESP packets >> include an encryption algorithm, or are instead ESP-NULL packets >> [RFC2410]. >> Techniques exist to identify ESP packets using ESP-NULL packets >> [RFC5879], which would allow these packets to be examined and >> prioritized. However, the techniques may not be practically applied >> within the prioritization code. >> >> Brian
- [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc6506… Brian Weis
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Acee Lindem
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Brian Weis
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Warren Kumari
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Bhatia, Manav (Manav)
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Tero Kivinen
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Warren Kumari
- Re: [secdir] Secdir review of draft-ietf-ospf-rfc… Brian Weis