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Re: [Secdispatch] Requesting agenda time for draft-knodel-e2ee-definition

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 07 July 2021 13:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Requesting agenda time for draft-knodel-e2ee-definition
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On 2021-07-07, at 15:04, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
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> I am hoping that you don't actually mean to create a new definition of a term that has been around at least since 1984.  I think what you mean to do is to establish an aspirational model that leads to a state in which certain conditions hold true.  Would I be wrong?

As in
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1775
?

Grüße, Carsten

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