Re: [Secdispatch] [Requesting Timeslot]: IETF118 - Call for topics

liuchunchi <liuchunchi@huawei.com> Fri, 20 October 2023 01:37 UTC

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From: liuchunchi <liuchunchi@huawei.com>
To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>, secdispatch <secdispatch@ietf.org>
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Hello Roman!

Thanks for reaching out.

Prior engagement with the (now concluded) SFC WG

Actually formal engagement was with opsec<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/agenda-117-opsec-01>. SFC would just be a good use case.

The topic is somewhere in between SEC/RTG/OPS, so we are looking for general feedback, with no preference where it should be homed. Being accepted in SEC area would be great if possible.

Best,
Chunchi

From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
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Subject: RE: [Secdispatch] [Requesting Timeslot]: IETF118 - Call for topics

Hi!

Thanks for this information.  Prior engagement with the (now concluded) SFC WG mentioned below suggested a need for feedback.  Could you clarify whether you are looking for a dispatch result on draft-liu-on-network-path-validation or general feedback with the intent to keep this document in RTG?

If you are looking for a dispatch result (see SecDispatch outcomes noted in https://wiki.ietf.org/group/secdispatch), do you have a sense for which outcome you are seeking?

Roman

From: Secdispatch <secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of liuchunchi
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 6:42 AM
To: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>>; secdispatch <secdispatch@ietf.org<mailto:secdispatch@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [Requesting Timeslot]: IETF118 - Call for topics

Hello Rifaat,

Can you guys also provide more information about what you are looking for?
Yes of course! We are looking for feedback and collaboration.

where should this be dispatched?
This document should support the SFC use case well, but the SFC WG concluded so we could use some advice.

previous discussions?
This document listed is a problem statement. We shared it in the hotrfc and OPSEC<https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/agenda-117-opsec-01> in last IETF 117. Feedbacks are mainly from OPSEC, requesting to narrow down the scope and use case, specify what it can do and cannot, and compare with existing works. We will focus on addressing last feedbacks and update one more time before deadline.

existing implementations?
We made a POC implementation and we will demo at 118 Hackathon, attached is the screenshot. I will register recently and update the mailing list (along with updated draft).

who is interested in this draft?
People interested in Proof of Transit problem may be interested in our work.

Best,
Chunchi

From: Secdispatch <secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:secdispatch-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Sent: 2023年10月11日 21:10
To: liuchunchi <liuchunchi=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:liuchunchi=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [Requesting Timeslot]: IETF118 - Call for topics

Chunchi,

Can you guys also provide more information about what you are looking for?
Are you looking for feedback on the document? or where should this be dispatched?

Also, if you can provide any other information that could help the WG have a better understanding of the document: previous discussions, existing implementations, who is interested in this draft, etc.

Regards,
 Rifaat





On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 8:28 AM Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chunchi,

Yes, I will add it to the list of topics to be discussed.

Regards,
 Rifaat


On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 6:27 AM liuchunchi <liuchunchi=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote:
Dear secdispatch,

I would like to request 10 minutes to present our new draft regarding path validation problem, its security implications and a potential solution.

Title: On Network Path Validation
Draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-on-network-path-validation/
Presenter: Chunchi Liu
Duration: 10 minutes

Please let me know if this topic can be accommodated.

Sincerely,
Chunchi


From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:17 AM
To: secdispatch <secdispatch@ietf.org<mailto:secdispatch@ietf.org>>
Subject: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics

All,

As per the preliminary agenda, we have a 90 minutes session on Monday at 15:30 - 17:00.

Please, reply to this email or directly to the chair if you have topics that you would like to discuss in Prague.

Regards,
 Rifaat


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