Moving forward with draft-igoe (Was: Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "tweak")
Tim Polk <tim.polk@nist.gov> Wed, 03 June 2009 20:04 UTC
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From: Tim Polk <tim.polk@nist.gov>
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Subject: Moving forward with draft-igoe (Was: Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "tweak")
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Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:54:17 -0400
Cc: Pasi Eronen <Pasi.Eronen@nokia.com>, draft-igoe-secsh-aes-gcm@tools.ietf.org
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Folks, I have decided to move forward with publication of draft-igoe-secsh- aes-gcm, "AES Galois Counter Mode for the Secure Shell Transport Layer Protocol", as an Informational RFC. I have been very pleased by the strong interest on this concluded wg list, and encourage people to continue discussing a general solution. If this moves from the discussion stage to draft development, I would be delighted to sponsor publication of such a draft. However, I have also concluded based on that discussion that draft- igoe-secsh-aes-gcm - in its current form - fills an immediate need. I also do not believe it is the authors' responsibility to develop a generic solution (e.g., negotiating whether the length should be encrypted). That said, I will refocus my near term efforts on clearing the remaining discuss so that the draft can be published. I do not believe this should impact any long term efforts that result from this discussion, and reiterate my support for publication of a generic solution. Thanks, Tim Polk
- applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "tweak" Tim Polk
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Simon Tatham
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Tero Kivinen
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Igoe, Kevin M.
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Joseph Galbraith
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Timo J. Rinne
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Joseph Galbraith
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… denis bider (Bitvise)
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… denis bider (Bitvise)
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… James Blaisdell
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- RE: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Simon Tatham
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- SSH_MSG_KEXINIT extensions field [was Re: applyin… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… denis bider (Bitvise)
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Timo J. Rinne
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Damien Miller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… David McGrew
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Timo J. Rinne
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Jeffrey Hutzelman
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- KEX_OPTION (Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell:… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: KEX_OPTION (Re: applying AES-GCM to secure sh… der Mouse
- Re: KEX_OPTION (Re: applying AES-GCM to secure sh… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: KEX_OPTION (Re: applying AES-GCM to secure sh… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Compression [was Re: applying AES-GCM to secure s… der Mouse
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… denis bider (Bitvise)
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Peter Gutmann
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Niels Möller
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Re: applying AES-GCM to secure shell: proposed "t… Nicolas Williams
- Moving forward with draft-igoe (Was: Re: applying… Tim Polk