Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00.txt
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Subject: Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00.txt
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See inline: GV> On 17/10/2016, 18:10, "Dave Dolson" <ddolson@sandvine.com> wrote: I would prefer to see the length field always mean length, so that implementations not requiring metadata can just skip the metadata regardless of MD type. GV> There is indeed something to say for that. However, For a NSH Type-1 MD allocation , the length field has no real contributing value, beyond containing the number 0x06. At the risk of stating the obvious, there already is an MD type field that can be used to discriminate metadata allocations. Values 3,4,5,... are available for different MD encodings. GV> And this would be fine also… current issue is that the way NSH MD Type-1 is currently defined it is considered as Opaque content data, and the allocation scheme is part left out from NSH definition… If for each of the allocation schemes a new MD type is allocated, then each SF can identify how to read the MD fields and the meta-data field in stateless universal fashion and life is easy and consistent… however, the current reality is different. G/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it is progressed currently for the allocation -Dave ________________________________________ From: sfc [sfc-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Ron Parker [Ron_Parker@affirmednetworks.com] Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 10:50 AM To: Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE); sfc@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00.txt Gunter, I strongly support this proposal. It brings more specificity to Type 1 which will undoubtedly improve interworking between different implementations and between different administrative domains. Ron -----Original Message----- From: sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE) Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 5:15 AM To: sfc@ietf.org Subject: [GRAYMAIL] [sfc] FW: New Version Notification for draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00.txt Short text about overloading NSH length field for NSH MD Type-1 as context allocation type, including proposal for backward compatibility. G/ ------ On 17/10/2016, 10:05, "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: A new version of I-D, draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Gunter Van de Velde and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload Revision: 00 Title: Network Services Header Context Allocation Identifier Document date: 2016-10-17 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 5 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vandevelde-sfc-nsh-length-overload-00 Abstract: The specification of the NSH MD Type 1 header [draft-ietf-sfc-nsh] mandates four Context Headers, 4-byte each, and they MUST be added immediately following the Service Path Header. As direct consequence, an NSH MD Type 1 header is always Length 0x6 (six 4-byte words). As a result, the Length field of the NSH MD Type 1 header provides an information which is known by simply looking at the "MD Type" field. However, while [draft-ietf-sfc-nsh] does not specify the encoding of these Context Headers, other specifications have started to do so. A need to distinguish types of Context Headers therefore arises. This draft proposes to overload the Length field of an NSH MD Type 1 as Meta-Data context allocation identifier and to create a IANA repository for NSH MD Type 1 allocation schemes. The NSH MD Type 1 Length field overload intends to allow universal understanding at any network location and by any network device of the context allocation structure. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc _______________________________________________ sfc mailing list sfc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc
- [sfc] FW: New Version Notification for draft-vand… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Ron Parker
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Dave Dolson
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Van De Velde, Gunter (Nokia - BE)
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Lucy yong
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Lucy yong
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… mohamed.boucadair
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… wang.cui1
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Ron Parker
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… wang.cui1
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Sumandra Majee
- Re: [sfc] New Version Notification for draft-vand… Joel M. Halpern