Re: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header

[Loa Andersson <[e-mail]>]

Joel,

A naive question inline.

On 16/12/2019 09:26, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> I am not confident that I follow your reasoning.   So let me restate 
> slightly, and then add some observations and questions.
> 
> You appear to be observing that the information as to what serviceID 
> could come from the control plane framework.  Is that what you are 
> getting at?
> 
> That draft has not been updated in more than 3 years, expired for 2.5 

Is what you say that draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane has not been changed
for 3 years and expired for 2.5?

Sometimes umbrella documents is useful, in this case we seems to be
doing good without one.

/Loa
> years.  It does not appear that the working group has any interest in 
> the document.  When it was last considered, there was a lot of 
> controversey about the draft, and if I recall correctly no agreement 
> that it was structured the right way.
> 
> Our approach to metadata, and for that matter to SPFID selection, and to 
> the forwarding entries in SFF, has been that the information can come 
> from a number of places and we do not tie the definitions to the 
> mechanisms used to provide them.
> 
> As such, I do not understand what form of reference would be 
> appropriate, even if the cited document were an active WG document.
> 
> Yours,
> Joel
> 
> On 12/15/2019 8:07 PM, Qin Wu wrote:
>> I believe this draft is under umbrella of 
>> draft-ietf-sfc-control-plane-08, suggest to add reference to it.
>> In addition, It will be great to add usage example of new defined 
>> subscriber identifier and Performance Policy Identifier.
>> Besides these, I think this draft is ready to go.
>>
>> -Qin
>> -----邮件原件-----
>> 发件人: sfc [mailto:[e-mail]] 代表 Joel M. Halpern
>> 发送时间: 2019年12月11日 21:52
>> 收件人: [e-mail]
>> 主题: [sfc] Fwd: IETF WG state changed for 
>> draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header
>>
>> Starting WG Last call.  See comment below for description.
>> Thank you,
>> Joel
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: IETF WG state changed for draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header
>> Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800 (PST)
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>> Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:27:51 -0800
>> From: IETF Secretariat <[e-mail]>
>> To: [e-mail], [e-mail]
>>
>>
>> The IETF WG state of draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header has been changed 
>> to "In
>> WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Joel Halpern:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header/
>>
>> Comment:
>> This starts the working group last call for this document.  It has been
>> discussed on the email list.  We need to see responses.  If you see 
>> issues
>> with publishing this document as an RFC, please speak up now.  And 
>> please be
>> clear about what your concerns are.   At the same time, if you think that
>> publishing this as an RFC is a good thing for the working group, please
>> speak
>> up.
>>
>> As a note for those who may be concerned about the relationship to the 
>> TLV
>> draft, the chairs have noticed that problem, and we believe we have 
>> gotten
>> that document unstuck.
>>
>> Given the propensity for people to disappear at this time of year, I am
>> giving the document a 4 week last call.
>>
>> Thank you for your time and attention,
>> Joel (& Jim)
>>
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