Re: [Sframe] Status of the SFRAME WG

Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> Sat, 28 August 2021 17:50 UTC

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From: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 07:50:24 -1000
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Subject: Re: [Sframe] Status of the SFRAME WG
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Hi Murray,

Thanks for checking in.  To be clear, work is still happening.  See the
SFrame vs SPacket discussion at AVTCORE at IETF 111.  There have been some
discussions among a few of us following on that, sporadically because of
summer holidays.  I’ll try to gather up some notes from that and start some
conversations on the mailing list.

My read on the state of things is:

1. We should probably go ahead and adopt draft-omara-sframe and
draft-barnes-sframe-mls.   There is shipping code using both of them, and
pretty broad agreement on the contents.  In fact, I don’t expect a ton of
changes needed before WGLC; but of course, other folks in the WG should
have their say.

2. We need to figure out what the story is with regard to carrying SFrame
in RTP and signaling it in SDP.  Sergio made a proposal in AVTCORE; I have
some different ideas that I need to write up for the group.  We should
probably have a virtual interim to get aligned on a path.

3. As background for that discussion, folks should be aware that the W3C
WebRTC WG is considering taking up work that would leverage the RTP/SDP
work, so there is a consumer lined up to add some shipping pressure.

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2021Aug/0038.html

End of brain dump.  Interested if others have a different read.

Cheers,
—Richard



On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 18:40 Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Colleagues,
>
> I'm concerned with what appears to be rather low energy in this working
> group.  There's been almost no activity on the list since IETF 110, and it
> looks like there's been little interest shown in an interim meeting despite
> efforts by the chairs to re-establish momentum.  It also looks like some of
> the work expected to be done in SFRAME is actually happening in AVTCORE.
>
> Is there still work to be done here and the energy and interest to do it?
> Should we propose moving the remaining document to AVTCORE or some other
> venue?  It had a milestone of June 2021, but that's now past without
> adopting any document to satisfy it.
>
> -MSK, ART AD
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