Re: [sidr] new agenda uploaded

Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Thu, 05 November 2015 15:29 UTC

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Sandy,

I think "draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered served a valuable 
purpose,
highlighting valid concerns about potential fragility in the RPKI, in 
the face of
errors by CAs and in the context of INR transfers. However, I feel that 
this I-D
should not progress.

The topic of INR transfers is being addressed in much grater detail in
draft-ymbk-sidr-transfer (which lists Geoff and George as co-authors). 
This doc.
for which I provided extensive comments over the summer, is examining 
discussing
INR transfers in a more thorough fashion and thus should provide a 
better basis for
selecting a standard mechanism for their support.

The impact of errors by CAs is being examined in a much broader context 
in an I-D that
Di Ma and I have authored: draft-kent-sidr-adverse-actions. This 
document examines
a very wide range of impacts that can result from an error by a CA or an 
attack
against a CA (or an error/attack involving a repository manager). Thus I 
feel that it
will provide a more comprehensive analysis of the sort of concerns raised in
validation-reconsidered.

Finally, the the validation algorithm change proposed in 
validation-reconsidered does
not address the broader range of errors noted in adverse-actions. It 
also is not compatible
with current RP software designs that validates CA (not just EE) certs 
as part of local cache
maintenance.

Once the sidr-transfer and adverse-actions I-Ds are completed, I believe 
the WG
will be a much better position to develop mechanisms that will address 
both sets
of concerns noted above.

Steve