[sidr] Results of acceptance call on draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting-02 in December 2012
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Fri, 31 May 2013 11:02 UTC
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Subject: [sidr] Results of acceptance call on draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting-02 in December 2012
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Hi, I am sorry I procrastinated for so long to close the acceptance call. Below are the questions I've asked on the mailing list: > 1) Is the problem described/solved by > draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting-02 actually a problem that the WG needs > to address? (Answer: yes or no. Additional information is welcomed, > but I don't want people to repeat the whole discussion.) > > 2) If you answered "yes" to the question #1, please also answer the > following question: > > Is draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting-02 a reasonable starting point to > become a WG document? Please choose one of the following: > > > a) Ready for Adoption (whether or not you have some specific issues > with it. Also, this answer is unrelated to whether this should be a > separate draft or a part of an existing draft). > > b) Needs more work BEFORE Adoption > > c) Should not be adopted. In particular this mean that you don't > believe any amount of work on the proposed draft will address your > issues. So any solution to this problem should be a new draft written > from scratch. > > d) Abstain/don't care > > > 3) If you answered "a" or "b" above, please also answer the following > question: > > Does this need to be in a standalone draft, or can it be incorporated > into another existing WG draft? When answering this question please > only base your answer on technical reasons, in particular please leave > the decision on who is going to edit the document (if it is > standalone) to WG chairs. Summary of results: Responded: 7 people Q1: Yes - 5 (or 5.5 :-)) Q2: Adopt: 1, Need more work: 2 (1.5), Don't adopt: 4 Q3: Standalone: 2, Fold into existing: 1 (others didn't respond or don't care) So, there is a problem to be solved, but people don't want to use the existing draft as the starting point. There is no WG agreement to accept draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting as a WG document. (Randy can continue to work on draft-ymbk-rpki-grandparenting as he sees fit.) Alexey, On behalf of SIDR WG Chairs. ------------- Raw data: Brian Dickson: Q1: Yes, there is a problem alluded to that might need to be solved. Q2: C - no, this draft is not the place to solve the problem Warren Kumari: Q1: Yes, it is a problem that I believe the WG should address…. I don't think it is the most important issue on our plate but I do think it is worth addressing. Q2: a. I believe that 1: starting from somewhere is useful (and this is somewhere) and 2: once the WG owns the doc it can make whatever changes it wants (well, is able to reach consensus on :-P) Q3: What? There is no "Abstain/don't care" option for 3? ;-) Byron Ellacott: Q1: No (with a 'but' under q.2). IOW, there IS a problem, but it's not one for a technical working group to resolve, it's one for bilateral business relationships to resolve. Q2: Don't adopt (c). Terry Manderson: Q1: Yes. Q2: Don't adopt (c). Stephen Kent: Q1: Yes Q2: Needs more work before adopting Q3: I don't recall another, extant WG draft with which this might be combined. Wes George: Q1: Yes, but I tend to agree that it's not a technical problem. Q2: b. (need more work) The text itself is ok, but we need to resolve #3 before adoption. Q3: It needs to be incorporated into an existing draft. This text is covering a very specific gotcha with some helpful recommendations and no actual requirements. It currently reads like an orphaned section of another draft, probably the operational considerations (origin-ops) draft. Andy Newton: Q1: At present, I think not. While this is interesting, I don't think the IETF is the venue for this document as the subject is not technical. Q3: Should it be adopted, I think it should be standalone.
- [sidr] Results of acceptance call on draft-ymbk-r… Alexey Melnikov