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Ben Maddison <benm@workonline.africa> Thu, 11 August 2022 06:32 UTC

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Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 08:31:44 +0200
From: Ben Maddison <benm@workonline.africa>
To: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen@ietf.org, sidrops-chairs@ietf.org, sidrops@ietf.org, morrowc@ops-netman.net
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] John Scudder's Yes on draft-ietf-sidrops-rpkimaxlen-13: (with COMMENT)
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Hi John,

On 08/10, John Scudder via Datatracker wrote:
[..]
> Thanks for this. Clearly there’s more work to be done given the significant
> issues you identify with respect to, e.g., scrubbing services, but your
> document provides a good map and motivation for that future work.

Appreciated, thanks.

> One minor suggestion, in
> 
>    As discussed in [LSG16], this means that the hijacker will attract
>    less traffic than he
> 
> Perhaps consider a non-gendered pronoun, as in “they” or “it”, or some other
> rewording?

Agreed. Will update in -14.

Cheers,

Ben

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