Re: [Sidrops] IANA early allocation for draft-ietf-sidrops-signed-tal?

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Mon, 27 June 2022 15:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] IANA early allocation for draft-ietf-sidrops-signed-tal?
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I am in favor of assigning a new OID, especially if this will stop the squatting on id-ct-rpkiTrustAnchor.

Russ

> On Jun 27, 2022, at 6:31 AM, Job Snijders <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was looking at draft-ietf-sidrops-signed-tal-09 and its compagnion
> testbed at https://rpki-testbed.apnic.net/signed-tal.html
> 
> The internet-draft has TBD as content-type identifier:
> 
>    id-ct-signedTAL OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { iso(1) member-body(2) us(840)
>        rsadsi(113549) pkcs(1) pkcs9(9) smime(16) ct(1) TBD }
> 
> The testbed uses 1.2.840.113549.1.9.16.1.37 (id-ct-utf8TextWithCRLF)
> 
> I can implement a validator & decoder in rpki-client's "file mode",
> which could be used to display the contents of TAK files; this would aid
> TA operators in the issuance & publication of TAK files, or software
> package maintainers responsible for packages like "rpki-trust-anchors"
> in Debian.
> 
> However - (I believe I mentioned this before) - I can't/won't implement
> the ability to overwrite operating system-provided TALs with a TAL
> gleaned from a TAK file, as that would mean crossing an unsurmountable
> write-barrier.
> 
> I'd like to propose to use the RFC 7120 process for a code point: OIDs
> are plentiful and cheap, and help us organise things.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Job