Re: [Sidrops] [GROW] Any credence to AS_SET in the *middle* between AS_SEQUENCEs?

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Thu, 21 July 2022 17:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] [GROW] Any credence to AS_SET in the *middle* between AS_SEQUENCEs?
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> On Jul 21, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) <kotikalapudi.sriram=40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> Jeff, 
> 
> I am OK with going along with the suggestion from Nick and Job. I think you are saying yes as well.
> 
> As for OV and AS_SETs, it may be worth considering updating RFC 6811 to reflect the same thing, i.e., always mark a route Invalid for having an AS_SET anywhere in the AS_PATH.

Some opinionated individuals already documented such a thing in RFC 6907, §7.1.9 et seq. :-)

The lingering case, that you might be talking about, is §7.1.8.

Note that 6907 didn't register itself as an update to 6811.

-- Jeff