IETF Logo Mail Archive

[Sidrops] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidrops-vrp-notation-01.txt

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Sat, 19 October 2024 15:56 UTC

Return-Path: <housley@vigilsec.com>
X-Original-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D735C14F71B for <sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:28 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.106
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.106 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=vigilsec.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P-9oRDCaGxge for <sidrops@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail3.g24.pair.com (mail3.g24.pair.com [66.39.134.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F8DC14F6F4 for <sidrops@ietf.org>; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 08:56:24 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail3.g24.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail3.g24.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168C717F4A4; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:56:23 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from smtpclient.apple (pfs.iad.rg.net [198.180.150.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail3.g24.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F196117F23C; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:56:22 -0400 (EDT)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3731.700.6.1.2\))
From: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>
In-Reply-To: <A8CE3795-C49C-4843-9C3E-58D9F8124E12@ripe.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:56:12 -0400
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <0EC2E3F8-D0E7-4EDB-8FD6-477BA3DAB6E3@vigilsec.com>
References: <172926462061.1512602.7942471976321750839@dt-datatracker-78dc5ccf94-w8wgc> <m2o73hdz6o.wl-randy@psg.com> <A8CE3795-C49C-4843-9C3E-58D9F8124E12@ripe.net>
To: Tim Bruijnzeels <tbruijnzeels@ripe.net>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3731.700.6.1.2)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=vigilsec.com; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=pair-202402141609; bh=pNyFjkoKprVdomLNqmj6a8q8PAZq5JmLOPU87ae+rSA=; b=YCVo08BWSaeT7vL1LSxejHGo9dm4Na4f2gXz2wciLP3xMSps2TswbBh5gcCHyniykyFs8Yp3aYLKRjSDQe67TAdomxTA5Be0yyA9IfQUCq3Z2k7utiqn8t4eETlixkUsZd7qmIEHajZnXYTgpNQYK6Ow0OkCcS02vTvbSn5/MvGUkvmAL4jsl8E68BpOM203Poo09kN3OhuJbroNpqCznCtSlR9CbSHplRJ2Tj7jz3JsS1zKe+mjvwE2Y+KedmrXjYsKbXQwgaPe2NpWz2tBw/3tJeJE9hjzuW/wB/c60C/dDA7QGNbgVkYSqc7yqvDF+mzW/u8FWxOgrNbbMYMpqA==
X-Scanned-By: mailmunge 3.11 on 66.39.134.11
Message-ID-Hash: B2LF7YVDWZR24MZH3CW342Z5PVSSWS7T
X-Message-ID-Hash: B2LF7YVDWZR24MZH3CW342Z5PVSSWS7T
X-MailFrom: housley@vigilsec.com
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-sidrops.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: IETF SIDRops <sidrops@ietf.org>
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc6
Precedence: list
Subject: [Sidrops] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidrops-vrp-notation-01.txt
List-Id: A list for the SIDR Operations WG <sidrops.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sidrops/J6VJJC215u4Nx-kmomOFEmNVHaw>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/sidrops>
List-Help: <mailto:sidrops-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:sidrops-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:sidrops@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:sidrops-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:sidrops-leave@ietf.org>

Tim:

>> On 18 Oct 2024, at 20:49, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  3.2.  origin-asn
>> 
>>  This field can optionally be prepended with the string "AS" followed
>>  by a decimal value of a 32-bit Autonomous System Number
>> 
>> and the benefit of this ambiguity is?
> 
> I am open to discussion (the same applies to the ASPA notation btw).
> 
> The reason was that when I first implemented this notation in Krill, I felt
> that using a style like: AS#### is clearest to a reader. It’s immediately
> clear (to me) that this number is about an AS.
> 
> That said, a simple number without “AS” cannot mean anything else in this
> context, so others might prefer it for brevity.
> 
> This is not ambiguous, as in the meaning is not changed, but of course it
> does add a small amount of complexity to allow both cases.  I think that
> level of complexity is acceptable, but if many people here prefer one
> canonical style instead, I can be persuaded (I prefer AS###).

I think Randy is saying that two formats adds complexity.  Just pick one please.

Russ

v2.46.0 | Report a Bug | By Email | System Status