Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm-00.txt]
Di Ma <madi@juicybun.cn> Thu, 23 February 2023 16:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version Notification for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm-00.txt]
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Job, Thanks for initiating this work. As one of the original SLURM co-authors, I am in support of adoption of it as WG item and I volunteer to work on it as co-author. Di > 2023年2月24日 00:23,Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@nlnetlabs.nl> 写道: > > Hi Job, all, > >> On 23 Feb 2023, at 14:03, Job Snijders <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> While working on running code implementations to support RFC8210bis in >> StayRTR and OpenBGPD, it dawned upon us that SLURM for ASPA wasn't >> specified yet. >> >> This below submission serves to compliment the existing body of work >> related to ASPA, and barring any complications, it might be good to try >> to make this part of the I-D cluster draft-ietf-sidrops-8210bis, >> draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-profile, & draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification. >> >> If the WG & chairs think this make sense, I'd like to ask for a call for >> Working Group Adoption for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm. > > I think this should indeed be done.. I have mentioned this on occasion, and quite recently I asked about this explicitly here: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sidrops/-mGfZYT7IcVSGB8vPuwkWvENy0c/ > > As one of the original SLURM co-authors I volunteered to work on it, and asked if the WG agrees that it's needed. I got little response to this. As a result talking to the other co-authors, and drafting a proposal did not make it to the top of my todo list yet. Given the lack of responses I am a bit surprised that there is now a document. > > As for the content. It is not clear through the references how the Validated ASPA Payloads (VAPs) are made, and fed into RPKI-RTR (8210-bis). There is a reference related to VAP to draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-profile-12, which in turn refers to draft-ietf-sidrops-aspa-verification-11 for this. The latter document does not mention VAP. > > This is important if we are to understand what the format should be for the aspa filter and local assertions. In particular, we need to know whether a VAP is modelled after the 8210-bis section 5.12 ASPA PDU. Or.. that, like Validated ROA Prefixes, it's a tuple of (customer-as, provider-as, optional afi limit) in which case as single ASPA object would contain multiple VAPs, and other ASPA objects could contain some of the same VAPs, as well as additional VAPs. I would then expect these to be combined to form the appropriate ASPA rtr PDU. > > I think we need clarity on this before the SLURM data format can be decided on. > > > Kind regards, > Tim > > > > >> >> Feedback, suggestions, pull requests & text are welcome too. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Job >> >> ----- Forwarded message from internet-drafts@ietf.org ----- >> >> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 04:57:19 -0800 >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> To: Ben Cartwright-Cox <ben@benjojo.co.uk>, Job Snijders <job@fastly.com> >> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm-00.txt >> >> >> A new version of I-D, draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm-00.txt >> has been successfully submitted by Job Snijders and posted to the >> IETF repository. >> >> Name: draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm >> Revision: 00 >> Title: Simplified Local Internet Number Resource Management (SLURM) with RPKI Autonomous System Provider Authorizations (ASPA) >> Document date: 2023-02-23 >> Group: Individual Submission >> Pages: 9 >> URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm-00.txt >> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm/ >> Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-spaghetti-sidrops-aspa-slurm >> >> >> Abstract: >> ISPs may want to establish a local view of exceptions to the Resource >> Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) data in the form of local filters >> and additions. This document defines an addendum to RFC 8416 by >> specifying a format for local filters and local assertions for >> Autonomous System Provider Authorizations (ASPA) for use with the >> RPKI. >> >> >> >> >> >> The IETF Secretariat >> >> >> >> ----- End forwarded message ----- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sidrops mailing list >> Sidrops@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidrops > > _______________________________________________ > Sidrops mailing list > Sidrops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidrops >
- [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Version … Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Di Ma
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Di Ma
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Russ Housley
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Job Snijders
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Di Ma
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Claudio Jeker
- Re: [Sidrops] [internet-drafts@ietf.org: New Vers… Ben Cox