Re: [Sidrops] [WGLC] draft-ietf-sidrops-roa-considerations-01 - Ends 28/November/2022

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Mon, 28 November 2022 18:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] [WGLC] draft-ietf-sidrops-roa-considerations-01 - Ends 28/November/2022
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>    Using multiple ROA objects with single IP prefix also allows a CA to
>    affect routing over time based on certificate expiry.  For example, a
>    prefix could be allowed to be originated from an AS only for a
>    specific period of time, such as some IP prefix was leased out
>    temporarily.
> 
> I don't think this describes a problem.

An operator with multiple prefixes may have complex contracts with
multiple upstream providers with varying time windows in which those
prefixes should be allowed to originate from each of those upstreams.

you may want to untersify that :)

randy