[Sidrops] ASPA validation of paths received from customers and providers
Maria Matejka <maria.matejka@nic.cz> Thu, 29 May 2025 11:31 UTC
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Subject: [Sidrops] ASPA validation of paths received from customers and providers
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Hello all, while preparing ASPA testing and teaching, we (in the BIRD team) ran into an uncertainty. The specification currently mandates to validate the AS Path as received, and it's expected that it's complemented by BGP Roles for the neighboring hop. While this makes perfect sense for ingestion of the routes, there is a misleading gap in our view in not including the local ASN if the neighbor is our customer or provider. In the case of our Customer, if the Customer forgets to include our ASN in their ASPA provider list, we may end up advertising their routes with ASPA-invalid AS Paths to our neighbors. In the case of our Provider, if we forget to include their ASN in our ASPA provider list, we may end up advertising routes with ASPA-invalid AS Paths to our customers. This is not the case of Peers or route servers where the Upstream verification algorithm is applied to the whole upstream portion of the path. We suggest that if the neighbor is Customer or Provider, the validation procedure at least strongly recommends (SHOULD) prepending the local ASN before executing the Upstream or Downstream Validation Procedure. This behavior would extend the validated path by a part which is expected to be valid anyway, so we expect no harm / risk from this update. The benefit from this would be that if anything is broken regarding the ASPA records, then the failure points to its actual source much more clearly and noticeably than with the current wording. We haven't been following all the discussions thoroughly so there may be something on this topic we have missed in the process. Feel free to reply with a pointer to an older discussion if something like this has already been resolved. Thanks! Maria -- Maria Matejka (she/her) | BIRD Team Leader | CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o.
- [Sidrops] ASPA validation of paths received from … Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Job Snijders
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Job Snijders
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Randy Bush
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Randy Bush
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Randy Bush
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Randy Bush
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Yangyang Wang
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… jia zhang
- [Sidrops] Re: ASPA validation of paths received f… Maria Matejka