Re: [Sidrops] inter-RIR overclaiming - discrepancy?

Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> Mon, 16 October 2023 18:15 UTC

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From: Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] inter-RIR overclaiming - discrepancy?
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> On 16 Oct 2023, at 11:26 am, Job Snijders <job=40fastly.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> A CA subordinate to APNIC is claiming authority for 2001:7fa:11::/48
> https://console.rpki-client.org/rpki.apnic.net/repository/B322A5F41D6611E2A3F27F7C72FD1FF2/UtaA4EXc6ZB4ng13cmF8YMNu0Y4.cer.html
> 
> However, according to IANA this space is managed by RIPE NCC:
> 
> $ curl -s https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments.txt | grepcidr3 -D 2001:7fa:11::/128
> defined by the prefix 2000::/3. [RFC3513] was later obsoleted by [RFC4291]. All address
>   2001:0600::/23 RIPE NCC    1999-07-01 whois.ripe.net https://rdap.db.ripe.net/      ALLOCATED
> 
> But, RDAP queries for 2001:7fa::/32 points to APNIC:
> 
> $ rdap --output-format json 2001:7fa::/32 | jq '.notices[0]'
> {
>  "title": "Source",
>  "description": [
>    "Objects returned came from source",
>    "APNIC"
>  ]
> }
> feather$ rdap --output-format json 2001:7fa::/32 | jq '.name'
> "APNIC-AP-IX-ASSIGNMENT"
> 
> The RIPE NCC 'online intermediate CA' appears to consciously omit
> authority for this block (by poking a hole), see:
> http://console.rpki-client.org/rpki.ripe.net/repository/aca/KpSo3VVK5wEHIJnHC2QHVV3d5mk.cer.html
> IP: 2001:600:: -- 2001:7f9:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff
> IP: 2001:7fb:: -- 2001:bff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff:ffff
> 
> OK good - at the operational level RIPE NCC does not claim authority for
> 2001:7fa::/32, and APNIC does assume authority; but what gives at the
> IANA level? Where is it documented that APNIC manages 2001:7fa::/32?
> 

This is an important question Job, and thanks for asking it. Yes, there is a location that
publishes the current status of all number resources and the RIR who is the steward
of each resource - you can find the list at https://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/nro-stats/latest/nro-delegated-stats

If you are interested into how we got to here there is a larger archive of these “joint stats”
looking back over many years, which can be found at https://www.potaroo.net/bgp/stats/nro/archive/

   Geoff