RFC 5490 on The Sieve Mail-Filtering Language -- Extensions for Checking Mailbox Status and Accessing Mailbox Metadata
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5490 Title: The Sieve Mail-Filtering Language -- Extensions for Checking Mailbox Status and Accessing Mailbox Metadata Author: A. Melnikov Status: Standards Track Date: March 2009 Mailbox: Alexey.Melnikov@isode.com Pages: 8 Characters: 16065 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-melnikov-sieve-imapext-metadata-08.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5490.txt This memo defines an extension to the Sieve mail filtering language (RFC 5228) for accessing mailbox and server annotations, checking for mailbox existence, and controlling mailbox creation on "fileinto" action. [STANDARDS TRACK] This document is a product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe, see http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution. The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2VNADD1017849 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2VNADCS017848; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from bosco.isi.edu (bosco.isi.edu [128.9.168.207]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2VNA1cC017831 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:10:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org) Received: by bosco.isi.edu (Postfix, from userid 70) id EF10F26B6E6; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:09:24 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 5490 on The Sieve Mail-Filtering Language -- Extensions for Checking Mailbox Status and Accessing Mailbox Metadata From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Message-Id: <20090331230924.EF10F26B6E6@bosco.isi.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5490 Title: The Sieve Mail-Filtering Language -- Extensions for Checking Mailbox Status and Accessing Mailbox Metadata Author: A. Melnikov Status: Standards Track Date: March 2009 Mailbox: Alexey.Melnikov@isode.com Pages: 8 Characters: 16065 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-melnikov-sieve-imapext-metadata-08.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5490.txt This memo defines an extension to the Sieve mail filtering language (RFC 5228) for accessing mailbox and server annotations, checking for mailbox existence, and controlling mailbox creation on "fileinto" action. [STANDARDS TRACK] This document is a product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. To subscribe or unsubscribe, see http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce http://mailman.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-dist For searching the RFC series, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfcsearch.html. For downloading RFCs, see http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc.html. Requests for special distribution should be addressed to either the author of the RFC in question, or to rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org. Unless specifically noted otherwise on the RFC itself, all RFCs are for unlimited distribution. The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2V4rqso040879 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:53:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2V4rquM040878; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:53:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.serendipity.cx (serendipity.palo-alto.ca.us [66.92.2.87]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2V4rgwH040868 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:53:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from aaron@serendipity.cx) Received: from [172.16.1.35] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.serendipity.cx (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E71A28B9; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:54:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: New chair: Aaron Stone From: Aaron Stone <aaron@serendipity.cx> To: Lisa Dusseault <lisa.dusseault@gmail.com> Cc: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org In-Reply-To: <ca722a9e0903301516v547dc9cewf6ad95275b626015@mail.gmail.com> References: <ca722a9e0903301516v547dc9cewf6ad95275b626015@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:53:30 -0700 Message-Id: <1238475210.21715.122.camel@turtle> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> Thanks, Lisa! Alexey leaves big shoes to fill, and I look forward to working with Cyrus to shepherd the WG's documents forward and showing off the fancy blue dot at upcoming meetings :-) Aaron On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 15:16 -0700, Lisa Dusseault wrote: > Hi all, > > With Alexey stepping up as AD this month, I asked Aaron Stone to join > Cyrus in chairing this group. He's already listed on the WG charter. > > Thanks Aaron for jumping into this, and thanks Alexey for all your hard work, > Lisa > Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2UMGMw0014695 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:16:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2UMGME9014691; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:16:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.146]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2UMG4Yr014647 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:16:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from lisa.dusseault@gmail.com) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1948352qwc.28 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LEp3wiIS7HBVuxKUbJVEK36iDxHn4zvPYrwzQVs9W8o=; b=qHteaC6Lh1H5xdz4gVcODsq3UjlFp/fpsPPh3/n+KE59lrgd0yUP7oYZID9EJFdnjr LcGYo8PCjAkn6xX/W4P9K+D3y/9qyF9OQvgRAmVoJQ58h31NRv/E4kLBwo8Oze/I3Vz3 TyHUL+K1rkrwgFr0MV0g0u92KGIJTI8Plijn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=upiJmZFgBibqatOZ2X6kOxAzg7GCHSuCsv7ReLwzg5cTKvY/mSfLPUtK2yiZLphK/+ 7rhiWXYN5AYp0qkcyPTRPJNsUret0EAU/AJdgUuhlD5ajPrCtOMF0W2CDQGbkmaP8bC0 EA0y2/+EghS8Z4+oMS+kSNhguKmpyBHyY3hLA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.100.6 with SMTP id w6mr1385555vcn.59.1238451364490; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:16:04 -0700 Message-ID: <ca722a9e0903301516v547dc9cewf6ad95275b626015@mail.gmail.com> Subject: New chair: Aaron Stone From: Lisa Dusseault <lisa.dusseault@gmail.com> To: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Cc: Aaron Stone <aaron@serendipity.cx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> Hi all, With Alexey stepping up as AD this month, I asked Aaron Stone to join Cyrus in chairing this group. He's already listed on the WG charter. Thanks Aaron for jumping into this, and thanks Alexey for all your hard work, Lisa Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2THV0PF018010 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:31:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2THV0pd018009; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:31:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2THUx2Z018000 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:30:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 873713A6BDA; Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-sieve-include-01.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090329173001.873713A6BDA@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : Sieve Email Filtering: Include Extension Author(s) : C. Daboo, A. Stone Filename : draft-ietf-sieve-include-01.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2009-03-29 The Sieve Email Filtering "include" extension permits users to include one Sieve script inside another. This can make managing large scripts or multiple sets of scripts much easier, and allows a site and its users to build up libraries of scripts. Users are able to include their own personal scripts or site-wide scripts. Change History (to be removed prior to publication as an RFC) Changes from ietf-00 to ietf-01: a. Replaced import/export with global. b. Added :once modifier to include. c. Added global namespace to see if it holds water. Changes from daboo-06 to ietf-00: a. None Changes from -05 to -06: a. Aaron Stone joins as author. b. Removed | characters from the script examples. c. Updated draft references to published RFCs. Changes from -04 to -05: a. Fixed examples. b. Relaxed requirement that imported/exported variables be set before being used. Changes from -03 to -04: a. Fixed missing 2119 definitions. b. Defined interaction with variables through use of import and export commands. Changes from -02 to -03: a. Refreshing expired draft (updated for nits). b. Syntax -> Usage. c. Updated to 3028bis reference. Changes from -01 to -02: a. Minor formatting changes only - refreshing expired draft. Changes from -00 to -01: a. Added IPR boiler plate. b. Re-ordered sections at start to conform to RFC style. c. Moved recursion comment into General Considerations section. d. Switched to using optional parameter to indicate personal vs global. e. Explicitly state that an error occurs when a missing script is included. Open Issues (to be resolved prior to publication as an RFC) a. Interaction with variables (scoping). Idea 1: use a "global" command to make a variable shared between scripts. Idea 2: use a "global" variable namespace and no additional commands. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-include-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-sieve-include-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-03-29102628.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OH8PRR022659 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:08:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2OH8PCv022658; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:08:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OH8EQU022636 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:08:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ned.freed@mrochek.com) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6YK7ZOPNK0140D6@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-mta-filters@imc.org; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6URHO9MRK00007A@mauve.mrochek.com>; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:06:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Subject: Re: draft-freed-sieve-in-xml status? In-reply-to: "Your message dated Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:29:00 +0100" <f470f68e0903240829p2f36bfd1ra5e6080e1403db15@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> Cc: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>, ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Message-id: <01N6YK7Y34P400007A@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <f470f68e0812041225x318bfdccg1bf9201b53ce8c2e@mail.gmail.com> <01N335CY3MAQ00SE3A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0812150500r5d1916f4obbd941434295fe07@mail.gmail.com> <01N3MQQCAYL000007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901061657g3aa2d63dwcdbee2ae91b3bbda@mail.gmail.com> <01N41Q9BQSU800007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901101020i7f12bce7j8d22748b596285a9@mail.gmail.com> <01N465T9JTGS00007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901111357i3970cf89wf3f761c2ca06baf5@mail.gmail.com> <01N6XK80VI1600007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0903240829p2f36bfd1ra5e6080e1403db15@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> wrote: > > Robert, the question just came up in our meeting as to whether or not your > > various comments have been addressed to your satisfaction in the latest > > revision. I believe I have at least responded to them all, but I'd appreciate > > it if you could review and see what you think. > i was satisfied by your responses on list Excellent. That means we're good to go for XML Directorate review and last call. FWIW, I did just post one additional revision, but the only change was to add an XML reference. Ned Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OFTDoI015284 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:29:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2OFTDxV015282; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:29:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail-bw0-f176.google.com (mail-bw0-f176.google.com [209.85.218.176]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2OFT1A1015268 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:29:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com) Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so2268579bwz.10 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:29:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Y4Ht+IuDbRRV8/B9CFmg6jr0hr8/WnarmK5Qw+Bldrk=; b=hpxlLiCIbE0HYWRd6I8v6jaNaIR4K5l84X/UULniJfTqquYrpuIglz1tN29p0/nMdt vvLWd0KVhPhoBVb3jW8xCz1AEa75qv3lkdYiMuUKVDPr06NpDSzjn0siFBtBpy3ks0pG aN3lsoYzzzl+/qB7RJlHTqhbpLtVuBmHEPy94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=bIwCifv/xxywXdqVd2CmF1wBe/eowl/IE08Hd7k4JSy3Kpitwn7xFiP6SI8dDOOMfb +5s5unPQdY0PonQ7y0ZsZ6ipBFvVIz7VFAtxPraarNxHELlqeTlPkOF5JBYRLmGajAOK CJOdX0LfIUacd18uU4cEBDOTjErnr4ooMJ/5Y= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.31.196 with SMTP id z4mr2964685bkc.92.1237908540955; Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:29:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <01N6XK80VI1600007A@mauve.mrochek.com> References: <f470f68e0812041225x318bfdccg1bf9201b53ce8c2e@mail.gmail.com> <01N335CY3MAQ00SE3A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0812150500r5d1916f4obbd941434295fe07@mail.gmail.com> <01N3MQQCAYL000007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901061657g3aa2d63dwcdbee2ae91b3bbda@mail.gmail.com> <01N41Q9BQSU800007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901101020i7f12bce7j8d22748b596285a9@mail.gmail.com> <01N465T9JTGS00007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901111357i3970cf89wf3f761c2ca06baf5@mail.gmail.com> <01N6XK80VI1600007A@mauve.mrochek.com> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <f470f68e0903240829p2f36bfd1ra5e6080e1403db15@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: draft-freed-sieve-in-xml status? From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> To: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Cc: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> wrote: > Robert, the question just came up in our meeting as to whether or not your > various comments have been addressed to your satisfaction in the latest > revision. I believe I have at least responded to them all, but I'd appreciate > it if you could review and see what you think. i was satisfied by your responses on list - robert Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NNvegi056865 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2NNveID056864; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NNvTCS056856 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:40 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ned.freed@mrochek.com) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6XK82EWTS00ZZCR@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-mta-filters@imc.org; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6URHO9MRK00007A@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:55:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Subject: draft-freed-sieve-in-xml status? In-reply-to: "Your message dated Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:57:51 +0000" <f470f68e0901111357i3970cf89wf3f761c2ca06baf5@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> Cc: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>, ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Message-id: <01N6XK80VI1600007A@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <f470f68e0812041225x318bfdccg1bf9201b53ce8c2e@mail.gmail.com> <01N32VHWP1EK00SE3A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0812141304i228b5a03s890e0f101b76b07e@mail.gmail.com> <01N335CY3MAQ00SE3A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0812150500r5d1916f4obbd941434295fe07@mail.gmail.com> <01N3MQQCAYL000007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901061657g3aa2d63dwcdbee2ae91b3bbda@mail.gmail.com> <01N41Q9BQSU800007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901101020i7f12bce7j8d22748b596285a9@mail.gmail.com> <01N465T9JTGS00007A@mauve.mrochek.com> <f470f68e0901111357i3970cf89wf3f761c2ca06baf5@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> Robert, the question just came up in our meeting as to whether or not your various comments have been addressed to your satisfaction in the latest revision. I believe I have at least responded to them all, but I'd appreciate it if you could review and see what you think. Ned P.S. Thanks for the concrete suggestions you have been providing - they have been extremely useful. Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NNjqoQ056364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2NNjqrT056363; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NNjqem056357 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 3E9C13A6BE2; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-freed-sieve-notary-05.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090323234501.3E9C13A6BE2@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : Sieve Email Filtering: Delivery Status Notifications and Deliver-By Extensions Author(s) : N. Freed Filename : draft-freed-sieve-notary-05.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2009-03-23 This document describes the "envelope-dsn", "redirect-dsn", "envelope-deliverby", and "redirect-deliverby" extensions to the Sieve email filtering language. The "envelope-dsn" and "envelope- deliverby" extensions provide access to additional envelope information provided by the delivery status notification and deliver-by SMTP extensions. The "redirect-dsn" and "redirect- deliverby" extensions extend Sieve's redirect action to provide control over delivery status notification and deliver-by parameters, respectively. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-freed-sieve-notary-05.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-freed-sieve-notary-05.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-03-23163059.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NKjq5A046508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:45:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2NKjqj4046507; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:45:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2NKjqxj046501 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:45:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 5E77A3A6907; Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:45:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-sieve-include-00.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090323204501.5E77A3A6907@core3.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:45:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : Sieve Email Filtering: Include Extension Author(s) : C. Daboo, A. Stone Filename : draft-ietf-sieve-include-00.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2009-03-23 The Sieve Email Filtering "include" extension permits users to include one Sieve script inside another. This can make managing large scripts or multiple sets of scripts much easier, as well as supporting common 'libraries' of scripts. Users are able to include their own personal scripts or site-wide scripts provided by the local Sieve implementation. Change History (to be removed prior to publication as an RFC) Changes from daboo-06 to ietf-00: a. None Changes from -05 to -06: a. Aaron Stone joins as author. b. Removed | characters from the script examples. c. Updated draft references to published RFCs. Changes from -04 to -05: a. Fixed examples. b. Relaxed requirement that imported/exported variables be set before being used. Changes from -03 to -04: a. Fixed missing 2119 definitions. b. Defined interaction with variables through use of import and export commands. Changes from -02 to -03: a. Refreshing expired draft (updated for nits). b. Syntax -> Usage. c. Updated to 3028bis reference. Changes from -01 to -02: a. Minor formatting changes only - refreshing expired draft. Changes from -00 to -01: a. Added IPR boiler plate. b. Re-ordered sections at start to conform to RFC style. c. Moved recursion comment into General Considerations section. d. Switched to using optional parameter to indicate personal vs global. e. Explicitly state that an error occurs when a missing script is included. Open Issues (to be resolved prior to publication as an RFC) a. Interaction with variables (scoping). Should variables be carried over between scripts that are included? Or should variables defined in an included script be local to that script only? A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-include-00.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-sieve-include-00.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-03-23134358.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart-- Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2H01ju5004255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:01:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2H01jCu004254; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:01:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from bosco.isi.edu (bosco.isi.edu [128.9.168.207]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2H01YrB004245 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:01:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org) Received: by bosco.isi.edu (Postfix, from userid 70) id 1B61E25770F; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:13 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 5429 on Sieve Email Filtering: Reject and Extended Reject Extensions From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Message-Id: <20090316235913.1B61E25770F@bosco.isi.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:59:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5429 Title: Sieve Email Filtering: Reject and Extended Reject Extensions Author: A. Stone, Ed. Status: Standards Track Date: March 2009 Mailbox: aaron@serendipity.palo-alto.ca.us Pages: 14 Characters: 28822 Obsoletes: RFC3028 Updates: RFC5228 I-D Tag: draft-ietf-sieve-refuse-reject-09.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5429.txt This memo updates the definition of the Sieve mail filtering language "reject" extension, originally defined in RFC 3028. A "Joe-job" is a spam run forged to appear as though it came from an innocent party, who is then generally flooded by automated bounces, Message Disposition Notifications (MDNs), and personal messages with complaints. The original Sieve "reject" action defined in RFC 3028 required use of MDNs for rejecting messages, thus contributing to the flood of Joe-job spam to victims of Joe-jobs. This memo updates the definition of the "reject" action to allow messages to be refused during the SMTP transaction, and defines the "ereject" action to require messages to be refused during the SMTP transaction, if possible. The "ereject" action is intended to replace the "reject" action wherever possible. The "ereject" action is similar to "reject", but will always favor protocol-level message rejection. [STANDARDS TRACK] This document is a product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. STANDARDS TRACK: This document specifies an Internet standards track protocol for the Internet community,and requests discussion and suggestions for improvements. Please refer to the current edition of the Internet Official Protocol Standards (STD 1) for the standardization state and status of this protocol. Distribution of this memo is unlimited. This announcement is sent to the IETF-Announce and rfc-dist lists. 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The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2AIE66P048077 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:14:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n2AIE6d8048076; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:14:06 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from bosco.isi.edu (bosco.isi.edu [128.9.168.207]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n2AIDt5B048068 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:14:05 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org) Received: by bosco.isi.edu (Postfix, from userid 70) id 3598B24B698; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) To: ietf-announce@ietf.org, rfc-dist@rfc-editor.org Subject: RFC 5463 on Sieve Email Filtering: Ihave Extension From: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org Cc: rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Message-Id: <20090310181202.3598B24B698@bosco.isi.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5463 Title: Sieve Email Filtering: Ihave Extension Author: N. Freed Status: Standards Track Date: March 2009 Mailbox: ned.freed@mrochek.com Pages: 6 Characters: 12481 Updates/Obsoletes/SeeAlso: None I-D Tag: draft-freed-sieve-ihave-04.txt URL: http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5463.txt This document describes the "ihave" extension to the Sieve email filtering language. The "ihave" extension provides a means to write scripts that can take advantage of optional Sieve features but can still run when those optional features are not available. The extension also defines a new error control command intended to be used to report situations where no combination of available extensions satisfies the needs of the script. [STANDARDS TRACK] This document is a product of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. This is now a Proposed Standard Protocol. 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The RFC Editor Team USC/Information Sciences Institute Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29FXJ1x060157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:33:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n29FXJcC060156; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:33:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29FXIFW060149 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:33:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ned.freed@mrochek.com) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6DIJ2FODC010EJS@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-mta-filters@imc.org; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6C10NYZ3400HB29@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Subject: Re: [draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-02] Escaping "*/" In Structured Comments In-reply-to: "Your message dated Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:13:12 +0000" <f470f68e0901300913o76065b2dr1d5ec17c61039d11@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> Cc: MTA filtering mailing list <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org> Message-id: <01N6DIJ01A3W00HB29@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <f470f68e0901300913o76065b2dr1d5ec17c61039d11@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> > Issue > ----- > No discussion is made about the merits of escaping content which will > be transformed into structured comments. For example, the following > fragment might be used to smuggle content into the script: > <displayblock><trouble>*/ > if header :contains "from" "enemy@example.edu" { > discard; > } > /*</trouble></displayblock> > Proposal > -------- > To "4.2. Structured Comments" Add: > If "*/" is found in the XML content, when mapped into a comment it > would prematurely terminate that comment. Escaping of this sequence > would often be inconvenient for processors. Editors SHALL NOT include > "*/" within displayblock, displaydata or foreign markup. Processors MAY > regard documents containing "*/" in foreign markup, displayblock > or displaydata as invalid. This seems like a reasonable restriction to document. > To "5. Security Considerations" Add: > Little effective protection can be offered by a processor to the user > of a malicious editor. Others have pointed out that this is a more general issue for Sieve and not specific to this document. That said, the security considerations section here really should point out that the trust conferred on editors must also be conferred on XML conversion components. I'm going to add a statement to that effect. Ned Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29FO9NN059760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:24:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n29FO98P059759; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:24:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29FO8FW059753 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:24:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ned.freed@mrochek.com) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6DI7Q9WWW011IAO@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-mta-filters@imc.org; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6C10NYZ3400HB29@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:21:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Subject: Re: [draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-02] Preservation Of Meta-Data During An Editing Session In-reply-to: "Your message dated Fri, 30 Jan 2009 17:04:22 +0000" <f470f68e0901300904q5a439ae7ia0cc0532ecd830d8@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> Cc: MTA filtering mailing list <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org> Message-id: <01N6DI7NHFSW00HB29@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <f470f68e0901300904q5a439ae7ia0cc0532ecd830d8@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> > Issue > ----- > Clarify expectations of meta-data preservation during editing. > Proposal > -------- > To "4.1. XML Display Directives" add: > Editors MAY use displayblock, displaydata and foreign namespaces to associate > meta-data which SHOULD be preserved by the processor during Sieve script > translation. Some editors find it inconvenient to preserve this > additional data > during an editing session. Editors MAY preserve this data during an editing > session for compatibility with other editors. First, there is already a requirement that such meta-data MUST be preserved by the translation process. So I don' think that part is necessary. That said, I think an explicit statement of what editors are supposed to do is a good idea and I've addedd that part of the above text to the document. Ned Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29FBAEk059029 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:11:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n29FB9LN059025; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:11:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29FB7VB059016 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:11:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ned.freed@mrochek.com) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6DHQKTRLS00ZKMS@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-mta-filters@imc.org; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 08:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6C10NYZ3400HB29@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 08:03:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Subject: Re: [draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-02] Unknown Markup In-reply-to: "Your message dated Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:37:36 +0000" <f470f68e0901301437o4faa94djfbeb44061048ad53@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> Cc: MTA filtering mailing list <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org> Message-id: <01N6DHQH97ZI00HB29@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <f470f68e0901301437o4faa94djfbeb44061048ad53@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> > Issue > ----- > The expected behaviour when a processor encounters a document > containing markup which it does not understand is not clear. > Proposal > -------- > A processor MAY validate documents against the standard schema and MAY > reject any which do not conform. For any document that a processor does > not reject as invalid, any markup that the processor cannot understand > by reference to this specification MAY be discarded. I think this is a reasonable statement to add, however, one tweak is needed - the example schema are informative, not "standard". The real question is where to put this text. There doesn't seem to be an existing section where it fits so I added a 4.3 "Validaion" section to the document. > Rationale > --------- > I think it is better to say something explicit about this issue. This > proposal is not one that I particularly favour but is the de facto status > quo as I see it. It is not unreasonable. I agree with all of this. Ned Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29EvTOh058233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:57:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n29EvS2I058232; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:57:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mauve.mrochek.com (mauve.mrochek.com [66.59.230.40]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n29EvI3E058224 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:57:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ned.freed@mrochek.com) Received: from dkim-sign.mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6DH9FQN7400YO9U@mauve.mrochek.com> for ietf-mta-filters@imc.org; Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mauve.mrochek.com by mauve.mrochek.com (PMDF V6.1-1 #35243) id <01N6C10NYZ3400HB29@mauve.mrochek.com>; Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 07:55:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Subject: Re: [draft-freed-sieve-in-xml-02] Nonimating Code Components In-reply-to: "Your message dated Tue, 03 Feb 2009 13:35:56 +0000" <f470f68e0902030535v74b98095o8627c8bd31872e35@mail.gmail.com> To: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> Cc: MTA filtering mailing list <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org> Message-id: <01N6DH9C1QCQ00HB29@mauve.mrochek.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <f470f68e0902030535v74b98095o8627c8bd31872e35@mail.gmail.com> Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> (Apologies for the tardiness of this reply - too much other stuff to deal with.) > Issue > ----- > It is not clear that sufficient rights are granted to create and > publish suitable > derivative works of the draft so that all of the useful source contained within > can be disseminated and used as widely as possible. Rights to use the useful > material more widely should be clarified. > Proposal > -------- > The working group nominates these materials (in particular Appendix A > and Appendix D > which do not appear to be covered in the standard list) as "code components" > (as defined by [1]), and so enables them to be made widely available > under the permissive > open source license defined in [1]. I certainly have no objection to adding text to the document referring to the sample code as "code components" and have done so for the next version. Ned Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n27HjYQI056939 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:45:34 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id n27HjXcc056938; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:45:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from mail.ietf.org (mail.ietf.org [64.170.98.32]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id n27HjXvs056932 for <ietf-mta-filters@imc.org>; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:45:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from root@core3.amsl.com) Received: by core3.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id 302CE3A6A75; Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:45:01 -0800 (PST) From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Cc: ietf-mta-filters@imc.org Subject: I-D Action:draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-01.txt Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20090307174501.302CE3A6A75@core3.amsl.com> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 09:45:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-ietf-mta-filters@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: <http://www.imc.org/ietf-mta-filters/mail-archive/> List-ID: <ietf-mta-filters.imc.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-mta-filters-request@imc.org?body=unsubscribe> --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Sieve Mail Filtering Language Working Group of the IETF. Title : Sieve Notification Mechanism: SIP MESSAGE Author(s) : A. Melnikov, et al. Filename : draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-01.txt Pages : 9 Date : 2009-03-07 This document describes a profile of the Sieve extension for notifications, to allow notifications to be sent over the SIP MESSAGE. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-01.txt Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. --NextPart Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-ietf-sieve-notify-sip-message-01.txt"; site="ftp.ietf.org"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <2009-03-07094235.I-D@ietf.org> --NextPart--