Re: Notify extension to Sieve

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> Tue, 03 July 2001 19:56 UTC

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To: Wolfgang Segmuller <whs@watson.ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: Notify extension to Sieve
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From: Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com>
In-Reply-To: <2034209321.994171654@ballybran.diz.watson.ibm.com> (Wolfgang Segmuller's message of "Tue, 03 Jul 2001 14:47:34 -0400")
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This looks cool!  Some random questions/suggestions from a bystander:

* I would be happier with two separate variables for the RFC 2822
  "display name" and the "address".  Having both the name and the mail
  address would fill up my entire cell phone display.  Maybe keep
  $from$ as is, and add $from-address$ and $from-name$.

  Q: Is it intended to exclude legacy address forms by using the term
  "display name"?  Perhaps no parsing of From: was intended.  I.e.:
  foo@bar (foo bar) rather than "foo bar" <foo@bar>.

* Are $subject$, $text$ etc QP/CTE-decoded?

* Security consideration additions:

The risk of creating mail loops must be considered, many instant
messaging systems (e.g. ICQ) have capabilities to forward the
notification by Internet Mail if you're not online.  Unless somehow
prevented, this might easily cause huge workload for the servers
involved.

* Is the draft really copyright 1999? :) There are some control
  characters (^M) in it as well.  Also perhaps update RFC 82{1,2} ->
  RFC 282{1,2}.

Wolfgang Segmuller <whs@watson.ibm.com> writes:

> Abstract
> 
>     Users go to great lengths to be notified as quickly as possible that
>     they have received new mail. Most of these methods involve polling
>     to check for new messages periodically. A push method handled by the
>     final delivery agent gives users quicker notifications and saves
>     server resources. This document does not specify the notification
>     method but is expected that using existing instant messaging
>     infrastructure such as Zephyr, ICQ, or SMS messages will be popular.
>     This draft describes an extension to the Sieve mail filtering
>     language that allows users to give specific preferences for
>     notification of Sieve actions.
> 
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-martin-sieve-notify-01.txt
> 
> Wolfgang Segmuller