Re: [Sigtran] M2PA T7 timer again

"Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org> Thu, 03 April 2003 15:26 UTC

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Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2003 08:21:07 -0700
From: "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org>
To: David Lehmann <lehmann@ulticom.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sigtran] M2PA T7 timer again
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David,

David Lehmann wrote:                                                                 (Thu, 03 Apr 2003 09:30:09)
> Brian F. G. Bidulock wrote:
> > Fiddling with SCTP parameters has its own problems.  See the SCTP
> > applicability statement.  In general SCTP applications should no mess
> > with SCTP parameters to avoid implementing application-level timers.
> 
> So the authors are recommending (requiring?) that M2PA implementations
> use the default SCTP parameters as specified in RFC 2960, section 14?

I don't see any reason why M2PA cannot work with those settings.

Do you?

Also, the settings cannot be negotiated and the one end of the
link cannot place requirements outside the recommended range onto
the other end of the link.

> 
> (My understanding was that those parameters were designed
> to make SCTP Internet friendly and not necessarily to preclude
> SCTP users from fiddling to meet certain timing requirements.)

What network need not be Internet friendly?

What IETF standard cannot be?

> 
> Also, can you be more specific about which section of the SCTP
> applicability statement to which you are referring?

draft-ietf-sigtran-signalling-over-sctp-applic-07.txt sections 3.1,
3.2, 3.3, 3.4.

--brian

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Brian F. G. Bidulock
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