Re: [Simple] (Performance) Internal WG Review: Recharter of SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple)
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X-Mailmstant message preparation using SIP to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Done Submission of XCAP usage for manipulation of presence document content Done Submission of XCAP usage for setting presence authorization to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Done Submission of Filtering mechanisms to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Done Submission of instant messaging session draft to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Done Submission of instant messaging session relay drafts to IESG for publication as Proposed Standards Done Submission of Partial Notification mechanism to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Feb 2007 Submission of an Instant Message Disposition Notification mechanism to the IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Feb 2007 Submission of XCAP event package to IESG or appropriate working group targeting publication as Proposed Standard Feb 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms meeting the advanced messaging requirements to the IESG or appropriate working group Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as Informational Jun 2007 Submission of SIMPLE protocol annotated overview draft to IESG for publication as Informational Aug 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms for initiating and managing Instant Message group chat to the IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Aug 2007 Conclusion of SIMPLE _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --=_alternative 0048768CC2257274_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" <br><tt><font size=2>Regarding:</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=2>Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the<br> SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as Informational</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=2>Assuming that we will find things that need to be improved in e.g. 3265</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=2>what will be the mechanism for the improvements? Via SIP WG?</font></tt> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br> --Avshalom<br> </font> <br> <br> <br> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td width=40%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org></b> </font> <p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">30/01/2007 23:33</font> <td width=59%> <table width=100%> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">To</font></div> <td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">iesg@ietf.org, iab@iab.org, simple@ietf.org, Robert Sparks <RjS@estacado.net>, Hisham Khartabil <hisham.khartabil@gmail.com></font> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">cc</font></div> <td> <tr valign=top> <td> <div align=right><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Subject</font></div> <td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[Simple] Internal WG Review: Recharter of SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple)</font></table> <br> <table> <tr valign=top> <td> <td></table> <br></table> <br> <br> <br><tt><font size=2>A new charter for the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging<br> Extensions (simple) working group in the Real-time Applications and<br> Infrastructure Area of the IETF is being considered. The draft charter <br> is provided below for your review and comment.<br> <br> Review time is one week.<br> <br> The IETF Secretariat<br> <br> +++<br> <br> SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple)<br> ======================================================================<br> <br> Last Modified: 2007-1-24<br> <br> Current Status: Active Working Group<br> <br> Chair(s):<br> Robert Sparks <RjS@estacado.net><br> Hisham Khartabil <hisham.khartabil@gmail.com><br> <br> <br> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director(s):<br> Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz><br> Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com><br> <br> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Advisor:<br> Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz&an-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions <simple.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple>, <mailto:simple-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://www1.ietf.org/pipermail/simple> List-Post: <mailto:simple@ietf.org> List-Help: <mailto:simple-request@ietf.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple>, <mailto:simple-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0618136998==" Errors-To: simple-bounces@ietf.org This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0618136998== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 004D8144C2257274_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004D8144C2257274_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Regarding: Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as Informational Assuming that we will find things that need to be improved in e.g. 3265 what will be the mechanism for the improvements? Via SIP WG? --Avshalom IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> 30/01/2007 23:33 To iesg@ietf.org, iab@iab.org, simple@ietf.org, Robert Sparks <RjS@estacado.net>, Hisham Khartabil <hisham.khartabil@gmail.com> cc Subject [Simple] Internal WG Review: Recharter of SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple) A new charter for the SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple) working group in the Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area of the IETF is being considered. The draft charter is provided below for your review and comment. Review time is one week. The IETF Secretariat +++ SIP for Instant Messaging and Presence Leveraging Extensions (simple) ====================================================================== Last Modified: 2007-1-24 Current Status: Active Working Group Chair(s): Robert Sparks <RjS@estacado.net> Hisham Khartabil <hisham.khartabil@gmail.com> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director(s): Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz> Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Advisor: Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz> Technical Advisor(s): Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz> Mailing Lists: General Discussion: simple@ietf.org To Subscribe: simple-request@ietf.org In Body: subscribe Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/simple/index.html Description of Working Group: This working group focuses on the application of the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP, RFC 3261) to the suite of services collectively known as instant messaging and presence (IMP). The IETF has committed to producing an interoperable standard for these services compliant to the requirements for IM outlined in RFC 2779 (including the security and privacy requirements there) and in the Common Presence and Instant Messaging (CPIM) specification, developed within the IMPP working group. As the most common services for which SIP is used share quite a bit in common with IMP, the adaptation of SIP to IMP seems a natural choice given the widespread support for (and relative maturity of) the SIP standard. This group has completed the majority of its primary goals and will focus on the remaining tasks documented here and concluding. Any proposed new work should be socialized with the chairs and AD early to determine if this WG is an appropriate venue. The primary remaining work of this group will be to complete: 1. The MSRP proposed standard mechanism for transporting sessions of messages initiated using the SIP, compliant to the requirments of RFC 2779, CPIM and BCP 41. 2. The XCAP framework for representing and carrying configuration and policy information in SIMPLE systems. 3. A mechanism for representing partial changes (patches) to XML documents and extensions to the SIMPLE publication and notification mechanisms to convey these gt;<br> <br> Technical Advisor(s):<br> Jon Peterson <jon.peterson@neustar.biz><br> <br> Mailing Lists:<br> General Discussion: simple@ietf.org<br> To Subscribe: simple-request@ietf.org<br> In Body: subscribe<br> Archive: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/simple/index.html<br> <br> Description of Working Group:<br> <br> This working group focuses on the application of the Session Initiation<br> Protocol (SIP, RFC 3261) to the suite of services collectively known as<br> instant messaging and presence (IMP). The IETF has committed to <br> producing an interoperable standard for these services compliant to <br> the requirements for IM outlined in RFC 2779 (including the security <br> and privacy requirements there) and in the Common Presence and Instant <br> Messaging (CPIM) specification, developed within the IMPP working <br> group. As the most common services for which SIP is used share quite a <br> bit in common with IMP, the adaptation of SIP to IMP seems a natural <br> choice given the widespread support for (and relative maturity of) the<br> SIP standard.<br> <br> This group has completed the majority of its primary goals and will <br> focus on the remaining tasks documented here and concluding. Any <br> proposed new work should be socialized with the chairs and AD early to <br> determine if this WG is an appropriate venue.<br> <br> The primary remaining work of this group will be to complete:<br> <br> 1. The MSRP proposed standard mechanism for transporting sessions of<br> messages initiated using the SIP, compliant to the requirments of RFC <br> 2779, CPIM and BCP 41.<br> <br> 2. The XCAP framework for representing and carrying configuration and<br> policy information in SIMPLE systems.<br> <br> 3. A mechanism for representing partial changes (patches) to XML<br> documents and extensions to the SIMPLE publication and notification <br> mechanisms to convey these partial changes.<br> <br> 4. A mechanism for initiating and managing Instant Message group chat.<br> <br> 5. An annotated overview of the SIMPLE protocol definition documents.<br> <br> Any SIP extensions proposed in the course of this development will, <br> after a last call process, be transferred to the SIP WG for <br> consideration as formal SIP extensions.<br> <br> Any mechanisms created for managing Instant Message group chat are<br> intended to provide a bridge to the conferencing protocols that will <br> be defined in XCON. They will be limited in scope to address only <br> simple Instant Message chat with nicknames and will not attempt<br> to address complex conferencing concepts such as sidebars. Their <br> design must anticipate operating in conjunction with the conferencing <br> protocols XCON is working towards.<br> <br> The working group will work within the framework for presence and IM<br> described in RFC 2778. The extensions it defines must also be <br> compliant with the SIP processes for extensions. The group cannot <br> modify baseline SIP behavior or define a new version of SIP for IM and <br> presence. If the group determines that any capabilities requiring an <br> extension to SIP are needed, the group will seek to define such<br> extensions within the SIP working group, and then use them here.<br> <br> Goals and Milestones:<br> Done Submission of event package for presence to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of watcher information drafts to IESG for publication as Proposed Standards<br> Done Submission of proposed event list mechanism to the SIP working group <br> Done Submission of requirements for event publishing to the IESG for<br> publication as Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of proposed mechanism for event publishing to the SIP<br> working group<br> Done Submission of SIMPLE PIDF profile to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of base XCAP draft to IESG for publication as Proposed<br> Standard<br> Done Submission of indication of instant message preparation using SIP to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of XCAP usage for manipulatipartial changes. 4. A mechanism for initiating and managing Instant Message group chat. 5. An annotated overview of the SIMPLE protocol definition documents. Any SIP extensions proposed in the course of this development will, after a last call process, be transferred to the SIP WG for consideration as formal SIP extensions. Any mechanisms created for managing Instant Message group chat are intended to provide a bridge to the conferencing protocols that will be defined in XCON. They will be limited in scope to address only simple Instant Message chat with nicknames and will not attempt to address complex conferencing concepts such as sidebars. Their design must anticipate operating in conjunction with the conferencing protocols XCON is working towards. The working group will work within the framework for presence and IM described in RFC 2778. The extensions it defines must also be compliant with the SIP processes for extensions. The group cannot modify baseline SIP behavior or define a new version of SIP for IM and presence. If the group determines that any capabilities requiring an extension to SIP are needed, the group will seek to define such extensions within the SIP working group, and then use them here. Goals and Milestones: Done Submission of event package for presence to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Done Submission of watcher information drafts to IESG for publication as Proposed Standards Done Submission of proposed event list mechanism to the SIP working group Done Submission of requirements for event publishing to the IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Done Submission of proposed mechanism for event publishing to the SIP working group Done Submission of SIMPLE PIDF profile to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Done Submission of base XCAP draft to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Done Submission of indication of instant message preparation using SIP to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Done Submission of XCAP usage for manipulation of presence document content Done Submission of XCAP usage for setting presence authorization to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Done Submission of Filtering mechanisms to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Done Submission of instant messaging session draft to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Done Submission of instant messaging session relay drafts to IESG for publication as Proposed Standards Done Submission of Partial Notification mechanism to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Feb 2007 Submission of an Instant Message Disposition Notification mechanism to the IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard Feb 2007 Submission of XCAP event package to IESG or appropriate working group targeting publication as Proposed Standard Feb 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms meeting the advanced messaging requirements to the IESG or appropriate working group Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as Informational Jun 2007 Submission of SIMPLE protocol annotated overview draft to IESG for publication as Informational Aug 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms for initiating and managing Instant Message group chat to the IESG for publication as Proposed Standard Aug 2007 Conclusion of SIMPLE _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --=_alternative 004D8144C2257274_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" <br><tt><font size=2>Regarding:</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=2>Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the<br> SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as Informational</font></tt> <br> <br><tt><font size=2>Assuming that we will find things that need to be improved in e.g. 3265</font></tt> <br><tt><font size=2>what will be the mechanism for the improvements? Via SIP WG?</font></tt> <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br> --Avshalom<br> </font> <br> <br> <br>on of presence document<br> content<br> Done Submission of XCAP usage for setting presence authorization to IESG for publication as Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of Filtering mechanisms to IESG for publication as a<br> Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of instant messaging session draft to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard<br> Done Submission of instant messaging session relay drafts to IESG for<br> publication as Proposed Standards<br> Done Submission of Partial Notification mechanism to IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard<br> Feb 2007 Submission of an Instant Message Disposition Notification<br> mechanism to the IESG for publication as a Proposed Standard<br> Feb 2007 Submission of XCAP event package to IESG or appropriate working group targeting publication as Proposed Standard<br> Feb 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms meeting the advanced messaging requirements to the IESG or appropriate working group<br> Mar 2007 Submission of a performance and scalability analysis of the<br> SIMPLE presence mechanisms to the IESG for publication as Informational<br> Jun 2007 Submission of SIMPLE protocol annotated overview draft to IESG<br> for publication as Informational<br> Aug 2007 Submission of proposed mechanisms for initiating and managing<br> Instant Message group chat to the IESG for publication as Proposed<br> Standard<br> Aug 2007 Conclusion of SIMPLE<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Simple mailing list<br> Simple@ietf.org<br> https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple<br> </font></tt> <br> --=_alternative 0048768CC2257274_=-- --===============1004551699== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Simple mailing list Simple@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/simple --===============1004551699==--
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