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RE: [XCON] RE: [Simple] Chatroom Gap Analysis - Media and mode aspects

Gunnar Hellström <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> Wed, 19 September 2007 09:14 UTC

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From: Gunnar Hellström <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se>
To: 'Cullen Jennings' <fluffy@cisco.com>
Subject: RE: [XCON] RE: [Simple] Chatroom Gap Analysis - Media and mode aspects
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Cullen,  sorry for repetition, I had an unfinished sentence in the response
sent recently.
Thanks, 
yes, I have talked with Paul Jones and others about the benefits of making
real-timish text with MSRP.
MSRP does not specify what event should cause transmission. So, it could be
a timer driven transmission just as well as a send button driven
transmission. The receiving and presenting end would just need to know to
present chunks consecutively until a new line or other end of entry
indicator is received.

There are also some good features in MSRP that could be of good use to make
sure the users have a synchronized view of the conversation.

People would love to do away with the tensions and risks for confusion
appearing when you try to use message-wise IM for intensive conversations,
by having text appearing gradually and smoothly as it is typed. With a
suitably selected transmission interval it probably does not need to take
more resources than maintaining the status indicator "The other participant
is typing a message" that many IM systems supply today.

Is there an interest to discuss this topic in an own thread SIMPLE?

Gunnar 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Cullen Jennings [mailto:fluffy@cisco.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:42 AM
To: Gunnar Hellström
Cc: simple@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [XCON] RE: [Simple] Chatroom Gap Analysis - Media and mode
aspects


On Aug 20, 2007, at 10:01 PM, Gunnar Hellström wrote:

>
> I have started on a document in that direction.
> See:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hellstrom-textpreview-01.txt

Gunnar, if you have not already done so, you should talk to Paul Jones about
some things he was looking at to do real time text with MSRP - it fits in
well with your textpreview draft.

Cullen


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