Re: [Simple] New I-D on presence states for phones

Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com> Wed, 09 July 2003 07:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Simple] New I-D on presence states for phones
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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 03:00:41 -0400
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Vijay K. Gurbani wrote:

> Jonathan Rosenberg wrote:

> 
> Generally, you describe what sort of presence information to offer
> without going into the details of *how* the presence information
> is actually generated in the first place. 

Right. There are LOTS of ways. SPIRITS is one of them, but definitely 
not the only one. The information in the presence document exists 
across a bunch of different PSTN elements, including HLRs, VLRs, MSCs, 
  etc.


  There are strong
> synergies here in the work we are finishing up in SPIRITS WG.  The
> SPIRITS protocol I-D
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-spirits-protocol-05.txt), 
> which is now complete, provides the primitives on the how part
> for wirless and wireline networks.  I think a cross reference to
> this I-D may give the reader a better overall picture.

OK, I will add a reference in the next revision (assuming there is one).

> 
> I have published an individual I-D on the implementation of presence
> information for POTS phones using SPIRITS
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gurbani-spirits-implementation-00.txt). 
> 
> Your phone-state extensions to PIDF provide a richer set of
> information.  In our initial implementation, we simply used an
> XML extension to indicate how long a phone user has been in a
> call.

I think the rpids "from" element would work well for that.

-Jonathan R.

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