Re: [Simple] Few questions on <draft-ietf-simple-presence-10.txt>

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@cisco.com> Mon, 01 December 2003 16:17 UTC

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Song, Youngsun wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In <draft-ietf-simple-presence-10.txt>, it mentions
> "application/cpim-pidf+xml" as the presence data format content type. 
> However in <draft-ietf-impp-cpim-pidf-08.txt>, it defines the presence
> content type as "application/pidf+xml". Are these different types of content
> types?

Looks like a bug to me.

> In Section 6.11.2, Migration, of <draft-ietf-simple-presence-10.txt>, it
> seems that the migration is likely to be used to migrate subscriptions from
> PA to PUAs. At the end of the section, it states "A PA SHOULD NOT migrate
> the subscription if it is composing aggregated presence documents received
> from multiple PUA." Since it is likely that there will be multiple PUAs
> where the PA will act as State Agent for presence, it seems that the
> subscription migration is not likely to occur. Is this right? I am trying to
> understand the usage of migration for presence.

There are many ways to implement this, and I'm not sure I understand 
what one you have in mind. One way that seems likely is for there to be 
a single PA acting on behalf of many presentities. For each presentity 
there may be zero, one, or more PUAs providing presence documents to be 
composed.

The decision the PA must make about migrating a subscription needs to be 
made independently for each presentity. If the PA is aggregating 
presence from multiple PUAs on behalf of a particular presentity, then 
it would be unwise to migrate the presence subscriptions to one of the 
PUAs. But it can be fine to do so for a presentity that has only one PUA 
reporting.

Clearly there are logistical problems if a second PUA comes online when 
subscriptions have been migrated to what had been the only PUA. Either 
that case needs to be avoided by configuration, or else it must be 
detected so that subscriptions can be migrated back to the PA.

	Paul


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