RE: [Sip] B2BUA - Security

"Christian Huitema" <huitema@windows.microsoft.com> Fri, 06 December 2002 01:57 UTC

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Subject: RE: [Sip] B2BUA - Security
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From: Christian Huitema <huitema@windows.microsoft.com>
To: "Mahey, Sonit" <Sonit.Mahey@icn.siemens.com>, Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com>, Pete Cordell <pete@tech-know-ware.com>
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The sending UA places the result of the STUN translation in the SDP, not
the private addresses and port numbers.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mahey, Sonit [mailto:Sonit.Mahey@icn.siemens.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 10:00 AM
> To: Christian Huitema; Jonathan Rosenberg; Pete Cordell
> Cc: sip@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Sip] B2BUA - Security
> 
> Thanks, Christian.
> 
> Assuming IPv4 addresses and without delving into the draft RFC on
STUN:
> The SDP contains the RTP/RTCP port numbers that are private and these
are
> also required to be NAT'd. Now, if the SDP, which forms part of the
SIP
> body, is encrypted, how will RTP/RTCP ports be translated?
> 
> regards,
> - sonit
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christian Huitema [mailto:huitema@windows.microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 12:54 PM
> > To: Mahey, Sonit; Jonathan Rosenberg; Pete Cordell
> > Cc: sip@ietf.org
> > Subject: RE: [Sip] B2BUA - Security
> >
> >
> > > From: Mahey, Sonit [mailto:Sonit.Mahey@icn.siemens.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 9:14 AM
> > >
> > > I agree with Jonathan.
> > >
> > > That brings up the question:
> > > Is NAT traversal for encrypted SIP traffic addressed anywhere?
> >
> > There are two possibilities. If your application only uses UDP, it
is
> > possible to use IPv4 and STUN to find out the "outside ports" for
your
> > UDP traffic (check draft-ietf-midcom-stun-03.txt); you may need to
use
> > the "a:rtcp" convention to encode port numbers in SDP (check
> > draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp4nat-03.txt). If you need to also support TCP,
or
> > use IPSEC, or generally do away with the complications of
> > NAT, the best
> > solution is to just move to IPv6; see Teredo
> > (draft-ietf-ngtrans-shipworm-08.txt) for one possible way to
> > carry IPv6
> > across NAT, and 6to4 (RFC 3056 & 3068) for a possible way to
> > upgrade the
> > NAT and make it an IPv6 router.
> >
> > -- Christian Huitema
> >
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