Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last Call on sip-dhcpv6
Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Tue, 28 May 2002 17:38 UTC
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From: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
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To: Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com>
CC: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>, sip@ietf.org, rohan@cisco.com, brian.rosen@marconi.com, jo@ipdialog.com
Subject: Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last Call on sip-dhcpv6
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I agree that this would be useful, albeit a bit unusual compared to other DHCP options. There are a few issues that would need to be resolved: - Would this apply to v6 only? I don't know that the state of the v4 draft is in the IESG pipeline and what other "customers" there are. This would be the first DHCP option containing a URI, so this may cause some broader issues. - It would be possible to add this mode as a third mechanism on top of the existing two (either as the byte identifier in v4 or as top-level items in v6) in both v4 and v6. That would seem to be the least likely to cause hick-ups. - As the only mode, URIs would not be amenable to DNS host name compression, so this is not quite equivalent. I suspect that that is a minor issue. Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > One comment. > > One of the things we need to be striving for is to move everything > consistently towards the usage of loose routing for sending requests > through intermediate hops. This has countless benefits, primarily > derived from the ability to associate parameters and other information > with the loose route URI. A local outbound proxy is most definitely a > hop that can be specified with a loose route. So, while bis does allow a > UAC to simply send requests to a configured IP/FQDN rather than use > loose routing, it recommends loose routing. > > So, my question is this: why don't we specify that the DHCP option > provides you a URI that is used as a loose route, and not a domain > name/IP address? Wouldn't that handle v6,v4 domain names and everything > else? > > Also, I suspect that in many cases, local outbound proxies will be doing > compression. How does the client know whether it can send compressed sip > messages to its proxy? Well, we have a URI parameter for this purpose: > > http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-camarillo-sip-sigcomp-00.txt > > Thus, if the client learns about the local outbound proxy through a URI, > it will be able to learn whether it supports compression. If only the > address/domain name are provided, separate means are needed to learn > about support for compression. > > Thanks, > Jonathan R. > > Dean Willis wrote: > >>We started working group last call of the sip-dhcpv6 draft on May 2. >>There has been no negative veedback that I'm aware of, so let's call >>WGLC complete and request IETF Last Call. >> >>http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sip-dhcpv6-00.txt >> >>-- >>Dean >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip >>This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol >>Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip >>Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip > > _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sipping@ietf.org for new developments on the application of sip
- [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last Call… Dean Willis
- Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last … Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last … Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last … Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last … Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Sip] Conclusion of WGLC, Call for IETF Last … Jonathan Rosenberg