[Sip] RE: [rohc] SigComp with EPIC compression for SIP messages

"Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB)" <lars-erik.jonsson@ericsson.com> Wed, 23 February 2005 04:18 UTC

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From: "Lars-Erik Jonsson (LU/EAB)" <lars-erik.jonsson@ericsson.com>
To: "'Lepine, Jean-Pierre'" <jeanpierre.lepine@smisrd.com>, rohc@ietf.org, sip@ietf.org, sipping@ietf.org
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Subject: [Sip] RE: [rohc] SigComp with EPIC compression for SIP messages
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The EPIC work was an experimental work that was brought to the ROHC WG as a header compression proposal. The work was never adopted by the WG and was terminated about 2 years ago, but some of the ideas about Formal Notation (FN) have been used in the ROHC TCP work. 
 
The SigComp user guide did (I am not sure about the new version just released) refer to EPIC, which is probably a mistake as algorithms are not specified in that document, and there is no reference available for an EPIC algorithm. 
 
BR
/Lars-Erik
 

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From: rohc-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rohc-bounces@ietf.org]On Behalf Of Lepine, Jean-Pierre
Sent: den 18 februari 2005 19:18
To: rohc@ietf.org; sip@ietf.org; sipping@ietf.org
Subject: [rohc] SigComp with EPIC compression for SIP messages




 

Hi all,

 

I am currently looking at using SigComp with EPIC compression for SIP messages. After reading relevant RFCs and Internet drafts, a few things are not clear to me.

 

First, I understand that EPIC relies on a profile to compress and decompress data. The EPIC reference implementation from Roke Manor Research Ltd provides a profile for RTP. However, I can't find a profile for SIP.

Is there one out there?

 

I think I can write one but this would likely be a problem for interoperability since the decompressor MUST use the same profile. One solution would be to download the profile to the other endpoint but this does not look too good to me, partly because I have a concern about the profile size. Furthermore, I don't see how I could instruct the other endpoint to use a downloaded profile (file name and location ?).

Any other option?

 

Also, in the SigComp User Guide (draft-ietf-rohc-sigcomp-user-guide-00.txt), section 4.6 is talking about EPIC and SIP but never mentions the need or existence of a profile.

Without a profile, how can EPIC be used ?

 

The mentioned section also shows compression results for three algorithms, including EPIC. All algorithms employed a static dictionary and shared compression.

Exactly how the EPIC results were obtained is not clear to me, in particular how EPIC was used ?

Only the Hierarchical Huffman algorithm ?

EPIC used in conjunction with DEFLATE ?

Did all three algorithms used the static dictionary described in RFC3485 ?

 

Any help would be really appreciated, Thanks.

 

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