Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore-content-id-05 - PULL REQUEST
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Mon, 05 June 2017 07:38 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore-content-id-05 - PULL REQUEST
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Hi, Nobody has indicated a need for globally uniqueness, so my suggestion is to merge the PR and submit a new version of the draft. Regards, Christer On 01/06/17 00:41, "Christer Holmberg" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: >Hi, > >I really think that mandating global uniqueness, for a possible use-case >that nobody is still aware of, is overkill. > >IF such use-case comes up, someone can always update the spec in order to >mandate a globally unique value for such use-case. Alternatively, the >value can be used together with some other value(s) (Call-ID, >transaction-id, CSeq etc etc etc) in order to create a unique reference. > >Regards, > >Christer > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ben Campbell [mailto:ben@nostrum.com] >Sent: 31 May 2017 22:03 >To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> >Cc: A. Jean Mahoney <mahoney@nostrum.com>; >draft-ietf-sipcore-content-id.all@ietf.org; sipcore@ietf.org >Subject: Re: AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore-content-id-05 - PULL >REQUEST > > >> On May 28, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Christer Holmberg >><christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >>>>>> I have created a pull request, based on your comments: >>>>>> https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-content-id/pull/6 >>>>> The diff looks fine. We probably want to make sure the WG shares >>>>> the opinion that the Content-ID will never be referenced from >>>>> outside the SIP message. >>>>> Jean, do you have thoughts on that from the shepherd perspective? >>>> >>>> The WG did discuss whether the Content-ID could be used outside of >>>>the message. >>>> The takeaway was, that since a SIP header has non-MIME fields, the >>>> Content-ID can't really refer to the entire message, and thus would >>>>not be useful outside the message. >>> >>> There seems to be two ideas intertwined there; namely the idea of >>> what a content-ID identifies, and the idea of whether a content-ID >>>could be referred to from outside the containing SIP message. >>> But I take your comment to mean that both were discussed. Is that >>>correct? >> >> As far as I remember, we did not discuss the possibility of referencing >>a body outside the SIP message. >> >> However, nobody has requested for that possibility, so I don't think we >>need to cover it. If someone, as some point, see a need for it, he/she >>can update the spec and define how it is done, what impacts it has on >>the uniqueness etc. > >It’s kind of hard to define extra-message references later if the initial >version does not require global uniqueness. If people want to leave that >option open, then global uniqueness may still make sense now. I’m okay >with it either way as long as the WG has thought it through, and hasn’t >just picked it arbitrarily. > >> >> Regards, >> >> Christer >> >> >> >>>>> However, I wasnąt sure how to address the following comment: >>>>> "1.2 and 1.3: A sentence or two that more strongly contrasts "body >>>>> part" vs "message-body" would be helpful. I think that some people >>>>> will think of a message-body as still a body-part.˛ I think section >>>>> 1.1 describes the difference between a message-body and a body-part. >>>>> I donąt think we should copy/paste that in sections 1.2 and 1.3. >>>>> Or, did I misunderstand you comment? >>>> On reflection, I think this might be fine like it is. I know that >>>> some people casually refer to the entire body as still a “part”, but >>>> that doesn’t seem to be reflected in the MIME RFCs. Let’s see if >>>> anyone comments in LC. >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Christer >> >
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Ben Campbell
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… A. Jean Mahoney
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Ben Campbell
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Ben Campbell
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Ben Campbell
- Re: [sipcore] AD Evaluation of draft-ietf-sipcore… Christer Holmberg