Re: [sipcore] draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and Liaison Statement to IETF on location source parameter

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From: "Jesske, Roland" <R.Jesske@telekom.de>
To: "Asveren, Tolga" <tasveren@sonusnet.com>, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>, "sipcore@ietf.org" <sipcore@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and Liaison Statement to IETF on location source parameter
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Hi,
so I can let it as it is or add an additional note to mention that the token is for future proof use.


Also to address Pauls comment complete. I would propose then the following:


          location-source = "loc-src=" (hostname / other-loc-src)
          hostname = <defined in RFC3261>
          other-loc-src = token

                         Figure 1: Location Source

Thank you and Best regards

Roland

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Asveren, Tolga [mailto:tasveren@sonusnet.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 22. September 2017 08:24
> An: Jesske, Roland <R.Jesske@telekom.de>; Paul Kyzivat
> <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>; sipcore@ietf.org
> Cc: James Winterbottom <a.james.winterbottom@gmail.com>
> Betreff: RE: [sipcore] draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and
> Liaison Statement to IETF on location source parameter
> 
> I would prefer to keep the existing syntax. Not that I have an immediate use
> case at hand but you never know what future would bring. And it would be a
> pity to have an extension draft just for something like this.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tolga
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipcore [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jesske, Roland
> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:30 AM
> To: Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu>; sipcore@ietf.org
> Cc: James Winterbottom <a.james.winterbottom@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sipcore] draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and
> Liaison Statement to IETF on location source parameter
> 
> Hi Paul,
> Thank you for your comment.
> The addition of other-loc-src was discussed in the past and was added due to
> some requests not to restrict this parameter to a hostname.
> ETSI does only needs a hostname.
> 
> So I have nothing against to change it as you have proposed it.
> So If other people would like to keep this please speak up.
> 
> Thank you and Best Regards
> 
> Roland
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: sipcore [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] Im Auftrag von Paul
> > Kyzivat
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. September 2017 21:12
> > An: sipcore@ietf.org
> > Betreff: Re: [sipcore] draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and
> > Liaison Statement to IETF on location source parameter
> >
> > I'm ok with adopting this.
> >
> > A minor point on the content:
> >
> > The syntax of the new parameter is defined as:
> >
> >            location-source = "loc-src=" (host / other-loc-src)
> >            other-loc-src = token
> >
> > But there is no definition of 'host'. I think the definition you are
> > intending is actually 'hostname' as defined in 3261.
> >
> > Also, if "Only a fully qualified host name is valid" then what is the
> > point of 'other-loc-src'?
> >
> > So I would suggest:
> >
> >            location-source = "loc-src=" hostname
> >            hostname = <defined in RFC3261>
> >
> > 	Thanks,
> > 	Paul
> >
> >
> > On 9/20/17 1:09 AM, Jesske, Roland wrote:
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > since I did not get any comments on our draft it look for me that
> > > people are happy with the content.
> > >
> > > So I would like to ask the group for adoption of this draft.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Roland
> > >
> > > *Von:*sipcore [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] *Im Auftrag von
> > > *Jesske, Roland
> > > *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 29. August 2017 10:59
> > > *An:* sipcore@ietf.org
> > > *Betreff:* [sipcore] draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and
> > > Liaison Statement to IETF on location source parameter
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > since I have uploaded the latest draft on
> > > draft-winterbottom-sipcore-locparam-01.txt and the last
> > > clarification on questions were given on 23. May I did not get any further
> comment.
> > >
> > > With a reference to this draft a Liaison from ETSI (
> > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1527/ ) is waiting for action.
> > >
> > > The liaison from ETSI is asking on the progress of the draft for
> > > their solution on Emergency Call due to the Project of  the European
> > > Union
> > > Mandate: M493.
> > >
> > > My question is, since we have no open questions, if we can now
> > > progress the draft.
> > >
> > > Thank you for consideration.
> > >
> > > Best Regards
> > >
> > > Roland
> > >
> > >
> > >
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