RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no privacy?]
"James Winterbottom" <winterb@nortelnetworks.com> Fri, 29 October 2004 06:57 UTC
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From: James Winterbottom <winterb@nortelnetworks.com>
To: "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com>, sipping-emergency@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no privacy?]
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:32:03 +1000
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Hi James, Doesn't "draft-ietf-geopriv-pres-02" suggest that a location server/generator is able to transmit a location to a location recipient, be that the target itself, or someone else. I believe that this is also covered in RFC-3693 GeoPriv Requirements. In order to be able to transmit a location, one must first be able to determine it!!! For the purposes of transmitting location pseudonyms are also used, so I am not sure where the tying to a user name comes in. What was submitted by me is a set of requirements that the authors believe need to be satisfied in order to meet the needs of emergency service providers. There has been no discussion of not using or varying the existing GeoPriv rulesets. Cheers James -----Original Message----- From: sipping-emergency-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipping-emergency-bounces@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, 29 October 2004 3:07 PM To: sipping-emergency@ietf.org Subject: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no privacy?] All In reading the charter for our new ECRIT BOF, I don't see mention of privacy concerns wrt the ability to track an endpoint based on some Loc Info Server (LIS) always knowing where that endpoint is (if nomadic or mobile), or tying a user(name) to a particular endpoint (regardless of what type it is). I thought privacy was agreed upon to be mentioned as a consideration? I know at least Jonathan and I brought it up, and I think I remember Jon agreeing to this consideration. We do not want to ignore the retention and distribution rules we so carefully built into the PIDF-LO cheers, James ******************* Truth is not to be argued... it is to be presented _______________________________________________ Sipping-emergency mailing list Sipping-emergency@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping-emergency
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- [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no pri… James M. Polk
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… James Winterbottom
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… Tschofenig Hannes
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… Tschofenig Hannes
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… Brian Rosen
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… Tschofenig Hannes
- Re: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… Marc Linsner
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… James M. Polk
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… James M. Polk
- RE: [Sipping-emergency] Comment about Charter [no… James Winterbottom