RE: [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy
"Zisimopoulos, Haris, VF-Group" <Haris.Zisimopoulos@vodafone.com> Fri, 05 August 2005 09:32 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:31:38 +0100
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From: "Zisimopoulos, Haris, VF-Group" <Haris.Zisimopoulos@vodafone.com>
To: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>, sipping <sipping@ietf.org>
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As it has been captured by the discussions for Dean's answer mode draft we are interested (at least in the mobile context) in a functionality that will provide: A. UASs with the ability to indicate the fact that they prefer (or mandate)that their incoming calls need to be answered manually (higher privacy) or automatically (lower privacy) by them B. UACs with the ability to indicate the fact that they prefer (or mandate) that their initiated calls to be answered manually (higher privacy) or automatically (lower privacy) by the terminating points Particularly keeping in mind that there are SIP based solutions such as PTT that allow automatic playout of the incoming voice stream without requiring user's consent. In my view therefore there seem to be use cases and requirements in a mobile environment in particular, for "privacy mandating" calls, now whether the "preconditions-like" approach is appropriate given it requires e2e negotiation is something that needs to be further investigated. It also seems to be interesting to investigate the overlaps and relationship in general with draft-willis-sip-answeralert-00. Best regards, Haris -----Original Message----- From: sipping-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipping-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henning Schulzrinne Sent: 05 August 2005 09:41 To: sipping Subject: [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy During the SIPPING meeting, the concern was raised that the media privacy tags could never guarantee such privacy and that devices may not be able to determine their privacy. This is true, but I think somewhat besides the point. This type of indication/request can never be perfect, but can prevent some "accidents". I think this is mostly useful where devices are known not to be reliably-private, e.g., pay and lobby phones. For example, in a doctor's office, having a mechanism that indicates that such devices should not be used can be helpful. Also, my perception was that there was a fair amount of interest in the recording issue. Maybe this can be broken out as needed. I'd value further feedback on where to take this work. Henning _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy Henning Schulzrinne
- RE: [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy Zisimopoulos, Haris, VF-Group
- Re: [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy Brijesh Kumar
- Re: [Sipping] draft-shacham-sip-media-privacy Henning Schulzrinne