RE: [Sipping] HERFP work

"Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Mon, 13 August 2007 10:27 UTC

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Subject: RE: [Sipping] HERFP work
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From: "Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)" <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Jeroen van Bemmel <jbemmel@zonnet.nl>, "Elwell, John" <john.elwell@siemens.com>, "Gonzalo Camarillo (JO/LMF)" <gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com>, sipping <sipping@ietf.org>
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Hi, 

>Would like to remark that
>http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-jbemmel-sipping-herfp-solution
-00.txt
>is an evolution of
>http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-jbemmel-herfp-solution-00.txt,
so you can disregard the latter.
> 
>Also, RFC3326 (Reason header) mentions HERFP and discusses 
>the option of including a final error code in a provisional 
>response (using Reason). It could be used in combination with 
>the 199 proposal.

The 199 draft currently doesn't talk so much about what extra
information is carried, since we're still on the requirement stage, but
sending the final error code sure is something which could be done.

Regards,

Christer



> Elwell, John wrote:
> > Sorry I didn't get up to speak to this during the session, 
> but I still 
> > have a hard time understanding why the 199 proposal 
> addresses HERFP, 
> > even partially. The 199 response just indicates that an 
> early dialog 
> > has terminated, without giving any reason. To me it addresses a 
> > different problem space.
> >
> > John
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Gonzalo Camarillo [mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com]
> >> Sent: 27 July 2007 00:53
> >> To: sipping
> >> Cc: Mary Barnes
> >> Subject: [Sipping] HERFP work
> >>
> >> Folks,
> >>
> >> today, in the SIPPING session, we agreed that the SIPPING 
> WG should 
> >> work on, at least, resolving the problem described in:
> >>
> >> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-holmberg-sipping-199-02.txt
> >>
> >> This problem is a subset of the more general HERFP 
> problem, which is 
> >> not only concerned with how to provide the UAC with 
> information about 
> >> the final error response generated by the UAS, but also 
> with how to 
> >> fix the problem reported by the final error response (e.g., by 
> >> sending a new request).
> >>
> >> Here you have a few (already expired) individual drafts on HERFP:
> >>
> >> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-jbemmel-sipping-herfp
> >> -solution-00.txt
> >> 
> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-jbemmel-herfp-solution-00.tx
> >> t 
> >> 
> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-mahy-sipping-herfp-fix-01.tx
> >> t http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-roach-sip-herfp-avoid
> >> ance-00.txt
> >> http://www.watersprings.org/pub/id/draft-rosenberg-sip-unify-00.txt
> >>
> >> We need to decide whether it is enough to work on the problem 
> >> described in draft-holmberg-sipping-199-02.txt or we 
> should work on 
> >> the more general HERFP problem.
> >>
> >> Comments are welcome.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Gonzalo
> >> SIPPING WG co-chair
> >>
> >>
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