RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt
"Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz> Sun, 14 July 2002 00:51 UTC
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From: "Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>
To: 'Mark Watson' <mwatson@nortelnetworks.com>, sipping@ietf.org
Subject: RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 19:25:54 -0500
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Support for Content-Disposition 'handling' parameter is now specified in RFC3261 - it is not predicated on supporting any ISUP MIME bodies (although the fact that the parameter happens to be defined in RFC3204 has admittedly been a source consternation to some, especially outside the SIP community). In fact, RFC3204 defines the parameter only because it happened to pass before RFC3261 - originally, RFC2543bis defined the parameter and the isup-mime Internet-Draft referenced it in bis, but the definition was moved to RFC3204 in order to get the document through the IESG. So, I don't think we need to import the concept of Trust Domains to SIP-T in order to guarantee that the Content-Disposition 'handling' parameter will be understood. This is no more unsafe than relying on remote endpoints to support any other statute of RFC3261. Jon Peterson NeuStar, Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Watson [mailto:mwatson@nortelnetworks.com] Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 8:08 PM To: sipping@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt All, As an aside to the security issue, there is an issue with respect to ISUP compatibility which is not addressed by the use of S/MIME. ISUP may carry information which is marked as 'essential' for the call to continue according to the compatibility mechanism. If this information cannot be propogated to a point where it is understood, then the call MUST be released. Therefore handling of such ISUP bodies is mandatory ('handling=required' in the Content-Disposition). In these cases, the message can only be sent if it is known that the downstream nodes correctly act on the Content-Disposition header. S/MIME will not help us here - the receiving node needs to be known to the sending node a priori, and known to behave in this way (and authenticated) i.e. we are in Trust Domain territory. Does anyone feel this needs clarification ? My concern is that people may mistakenly believe that S/MIME encryption/integrity makes it safe to send ISUP bodies in all cases, whereas this is only the case if 'handling=optional'. Regards, Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org [ mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org <mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org> ] > Sent: 07 July 2002 17:33 > Cc: sipping@ietf.org > Subject: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line > Internet-Drafts directories. > This draft is a work item of the Session Initiation Proposal > Investigation Working Group of the IETF. > > Title : SIP for Telephones (SIP-T): Context > and Architectures > Author(s) : A. Vemuri, J. Peterson > Filename : draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt > Pages : 32 > Date : 05-Jul-02 > > The popularity of gateways that interwork between the PSTN (Public > Switched Telephone Network) and SIP networks has motivated the > publication of a set ofcommon practices that can assure consistent > behavior across implementations. This document taxonomizes the uses > of PSTN-SIP gateways, provides uses cases, and identifies mechanisms > necessary for interworking. The mechanisms detail how SIP provides > for both 'encapsulation' (carriage of PSTN signaling across a SIP > network) and 'translation' (protocol mapping). > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt> > > To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to > ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body > of the message. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login > with the username > "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, > type "cd internet-drafts" and then > "get draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt". > > A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in > http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html <http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt> > > > Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. > > Send a message to: > mailserv@ietf.org. > In the body type: > "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.txt". > > NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in > MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this > feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" > command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or > a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant > mail readers > exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with > "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split > up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on > how to manipulate these messages. > > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. >
- [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-04.t… Internet-Drafts
- RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-… Mark Watson
- RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-… Kevin Summers
- RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-… Peterson, Jon
- RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-… Mark Watson
- RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-… Peterson, Jon
- RE: [Sipping] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-sipping-sipt-… Mark Watson