Re: [Sipping] SIP Gateway Controller
Bobby Sardana <sardana@obsoft.com> Thu, 05 September 2002 05:38 UTC
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However, there exists a SIN (SIP for IN) group that is defining IN service access via SIP. Following is the link: http://search.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-gurbani-sin-02.txt regards, Bobby Sardana. sardana@obsoft.com Tom_Gray@mitel.com wrote: > This can open the debate as to whether the AIN is capable of providing the > types of features that are enabled by the new technology environment. My > own opinion is that the AIN is optimised to provide a small number of > generalised features and would be very hard pressed with its centralised > architecture to do any real form of personalization. > > Thanks > > Tom Gray > > "Yadavalli, Satyamurthy" <syadavalli@telogy.com> on 09/04/2002 02:04:42 PM > > To: "'Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM'" <Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM>, "Yadavalli, Satyamurthy" > <syadavalli@telogy.com> > cc: "'sipping@ietf.org'" <sipping@ietf.org> > Subject: RE: [Sipping] SIP Gateway Controller > > True, one option that SIP providers may choose (for atleast some features) > is to use existing AIN infrastructure. > But they may not want to be limited to(by) features offered by AIN. > > - Satya > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM [mailto:Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:10 AM > > To: Yadavalli, Satyamurthy > > Cc: 'Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM'; 'sipping@ietf.org' > > Subject: RE: [Sipping] SIP Gateway Controller > > > > > > > > > > I've heard this sort of idea before. When I first created the > > following > > question I realised that it could be misinterpreted as being > > sarcastic. it > > is not intended that way and is a real question about > > proposals of this > > type. The basic architecture described below is very similar > > to the AIN. > > Why, if one wanted this functionality, would one not just use > > the AIN.? > > > > Thanks > > > > Tom Gray > > > > > > > > > > > > "Yadavalli, Satyamurthy" <syadavalli@telogy.com>@ietf.org on > > 09/03/2002 > > 02:08:54 PM > > > > Sent by: sipping-admin@ietf.org > > > > > > To: "'Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM'" <Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM> > > cc: "'sipping@ietf.org'" <sipping@ietf.org> > > Subject: RE: [Sipping] SIP Gateway Controller > > > > > > One of the advantages of SIP providing such a capability is that > > supplementary features (which may be implemented in several > > ways and so are > > NOT standardized for SIP environments) need not be > > implemented in the User > > Agents. > > > > A "SIP feature server" may implement new supplementary > > services for the > > endpoints without changes in the endpoint software which > > results in easier > > maintanance. For example basic call setup etc., may still happen in a > > peer-peer fashion but when it comes to supplementary services > > the "feature > > server" may play a role. > > > > This is similar to H323 Annex-L which specifies a mechanism > > to have megaco > > embedded into H323. SIP also may still use Megaco mechanisms > > inherently > > with > > a "sip wrapper" to accomplish this. But inorder to have a SIP entity > > "support megaco" and also have the "SIP feature server" involved a > > specification may need to be layed out. > > > > -satya > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM [mailto:Tom_Gray@Mitel.COM] > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:12 AM > > > To: Yadavalli, Satyamurthy > > > Subject: Re: [Sipping] SIP Gateway Controller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not use Megaco? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Yadavalli, Satyamurthy" <syadavalli@telogy.com>@ietf.org on > > > 09/03/2002 > > > 09:59:10 AM > > > > > > Sent by: sipping-admin@ietf.org > > > > > > > > > To: "'sipping@ietf.org'" <sipping@ietf.org> > > > cc: > > > Subject: [Sipping] SIP Gateway Controller > > > > > > > > > Is there any effort at IETF to use SIP in a call agent model > > > (instead of > > > the > > > peer-peer model that SIP is popular as) where the endpoints are not > > > 'intelligent' and instead are controlled by a central > > > controller - as in > > > the > > > case of MGCP/Megaco - to which all events (e.g., telephony > > events) are > > > reported to and the callAgent/controller instructs the > > > endpoint to setup > > > media sessions or play signals etc.,? > > > Is the SIP's "third party call control (3pcc)" effort > > > anything towards this > > > direction? > > > -Satya > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > > > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > > Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > > Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip > Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
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