RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NAT traversal
Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com Wed, 02 November 2005 20:59 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NAT traversal
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Juha, > > i still haven't got any answer why something would need to be > standardized for this kind of stupid UA/stupid NAT scenario, > intelligent > sip proxy/media proxy, since it seems to work fine within the > limits of > already existing standards. > I think you are right, but in that case you will run into issues discussed in http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-camarillo-sipping-sbc-funcs-02.txt and also to scaling issues if all media needs to traverse the media proxies. ICE, STUN and TURN provide another set of tools, and the question is whether they are good enough in the cases constrained by power consumption and session setup latency. If yes, there is no new standardization needed. If not, we may need to reconsider. > -- juha > Markus _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NAT tr… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Henry Sinnreich
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Henry Sinnreich
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… john.loughney
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Dean Willis
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Drage, Keith (Keith)
- [Sipping] Port prediction for symmetric NATs Baruch Sterman
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… henry
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Aki Niemi
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Christer Holmberg (JO/LMF)
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Juha Heinanen
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Hisham Khartabil
- Re: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Cullen Jennings
- RE: [Sipping] Making SBCs more transparent for NA… Markus.Isomaki