Re: [Sipping] Some more thoughts on draft-haluska-sipping-directory-assistance-01.txt
Dale.Worley@comcast.net Mon, 15 January 2007 21:40 UTC
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From: "Haluska, John J" <jhaluska@telcordia.com> >* The range of business models considered seems to be quite narrow: > > There are several network scenarios which must be supported: > > Services are provided by the caller's home provider. > > Services are provided a third party provider which has direct SIP > layer connectivity as well as business relationships with the > caller's home provider. > > Services are provided a third party provider which has no direct SIP > layer connectivity and no business relationships with the caller's > home provider. > >For instance, consider "Services are provided a third party provider >which has direct SIP layer connectivity but no business relationships >with the caller's home provider. " and "Services are provided a third >party provider which has no business relationships with the caller, >but does have a business relationship with another third party >provider which has a direct business relationship with the caller." >And I expect a little thought could construct many other cases. Any >proposed mechanisms should work in a broad range of business models. JH - yes. I've also been thinking that SPEERMINT might have some thoughts about this, since a lot of what they deal with is driven by business relationships between providers. Permit me to suggest that you might consider information services that are *not* driven by business relationships between providers, but are freely chosen by the customers, outside the control of their communication providers. Indeed, let me make that statement stronger -- If you propose a mechanism that constrains SIP users to only use information services chosen and approved by their communication providers, and that mechanism is somehow implemented, thousands of "net-heads" will work night and day to subvert that control by the communication providers. That is what is called "an open network". The economic driver of Internet adoption is freeing users from the control of their communication providers, and many people are very passionate about that. Do not attempt to standardize (though the IETF!) an approach that the Internet community sees as necessary to destroy. Remember: VoIP was started by people who didn't want to pay the high international voice charges between Israel and the US. Dale _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Some more thoughts on draft-haluska-sip… Dale.Worley
- Re: [Sipping] Some more thoughts on draft-haluska… Haluska, John J
- Re: [Sipping] Some more thoughts on draft-haluska… Dale.Worley
- RE: [Sipping] Some more thoughts ondraft-haluska-… Henry Sinnreich