RE: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics
"Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Sun, 25 June 2006 09:59 UTC
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Subject: RE: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics
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Eric, >From the bmwg charter: > The major goal of the Benchmarking Methodology Working Group is to make a series of recommendations concerning the measurement of the performance characteristics of various internetworking technologies; To the extend that we consider SIP an internetworking technology, I believe that the scope of the 'SIP Performance Metrics' draft is within the scope of what bmwg is doing for a while, quite successfully, some say. On a more 'philosophical plan', there is nothing that says that the IETF work must strictly deal with defining the bits in the Internet Protocols - see http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-hoffman-taobis-08.txt. And in any case, measuring how a protocol or a device implementing a protocol behaves can be considered also 'DIRECTLY related to protocol development'. Dan PS - This does not mean that I do not have my own questions about the I-D :-) PPS - If we end by deciding that we do this work in the IETF we should certainly coordinate with other organizations developing standards, performance measurement and test methodologies in this space. > -----Original Message----- > From: Burger, Eric [mailto:eburger@cantata.com] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 11:18 PM > To: Malas, Daryl > Cc: sipping@ietf.org; bmwg@ietf.org > Subject: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics > > More to the point, is this work appropriate for the IETF at > all? I would offer that if we needed additions to SIP to > instrument it for monitoring, then sure. However, I think > this would much better be done in another venue such as the > SIP Forum or IMS Forum or even SPEC. If it turns out that > there need to be some SIP changes, then we could bring that > to the IETF. > > We have way too much on our plate as it is. > > > > Disclaimer: I'm on the boards of both the SIP Forum and IMS Forum. > However, this isn't make-work for those groups. Rather, this > is a plea to NOT make more work in the IETF that is not > DIRECTLY related to protocol development. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henning Schulzrinne [mailto:hgs@cs.columbia.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:44 PM > To: Vijay K. Gurbani > Cc: Malas, Daryl; sipping@ietf.org; acmorton@att.com; bmwg@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics > > A working group has just been formed (this week) in the SPEC > consortium. > > Vijay K. Gurbani wrote: > > Daryl: There is work starting in the BMWG along SIP performance > > metrics, being worked by Scott Poretsky and me. At the > very least, we > > should co-ordinate your draft with the thoughts there, and then can > > figure out with the help of chairs and ADs as to where the > work should > > proceed. > > > > I have also heard about some performance metrics work in TISPAN and > > SPEC, but I do not have any more details about these. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping > This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP > Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current > sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP > > _______________________________________________ > bmwg mailing list > bmwg@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bmwg > _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics Malas, Daryl
- Re: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics Vijay K. Gurbani
- Re: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics Henning Schulzrinne
- [Sipping] SPEC SIP Benchmarking Effort nahum
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance Metrics Burger, Eric
- RE: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance M… Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
- RE: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance M… sporetsky
- Re: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance M… nahum
- Re: [bmwg] RE: [Sipping] Draft: SIP Performance M… Dale.Worley