Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs
Eunsoo Shim <eunsoo@nec-labs.com> Sun, 06 March 2005 07:36 UTC
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Hi, Jonathan, The document you referred to in the below was very helpful for me. In particular, I feel the problem mentioned in the text below can affect the end users and the organization having the (SIP-)ALG noticeably today. " Furthermore, extensions to SIP, such as UPDATE [17] add additional cases. Even if both endpoints in a call support this specification, they will not be able to implement it if the ALG does not support it. Of course, the fact that it is not supported by the ALG will be hard to ascertain because of the diagnostic issues described above. " SIP-ALGs who do not understand a certain extension of the SIP messages will discard the messages even though the SIP messages are legitimate. This problem indeed happened in deployments. Regards, Eunsoo Jonathan Rosenberg wrote: > inline. > > Roy, Radhika wrote: > >> Medhavi: >> >> We did discuss this during RFC 3261 (Jonathan R. - is this ALG >> example for modifying SDP an exception or we are missing something?). > > > Proxies are not permitted to modify SDP, period. A SIP ALG that does > so is a violation of RFC3261. Indeed, ALGs present many problems, of > which SDP rewriting is just one. Please take a look at: > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-iab-nat-traversal-considerations-00.txt > > > -Jonathan R.
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- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Gonzalo Camarillo
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- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Shai Mohaban
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- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Arjun Roychowdhury
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- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
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- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
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- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Gonzalo Camarillo
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- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Paul Kyzivat
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- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Gonzalo Camarillo
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Roy, Radhika
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Roy, Radhika
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- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
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- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Arjun Roychowdhury
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- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Arjun Roychowdhury
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- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Eric Burger
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs henry
- Re: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Eunsoo Shim
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia
- RE: [Sipping] Draft: Functions of Current SBCs Medhavi Bhatia