Re: [Sipping] [RAI] Expert review of draft-sinnreich-sip-tools-03

As soon as you let a committee near any subject, you will invariably get
complication. Every protocol I have worked on in standards bodies has
invariably got more complicated. Two years after commencement someone
comes in with a xxx-LITE version, which if it ever starts grows even
more heavyweight that the original before being abandoned.

The only programming language I have seen that pretty much managed to do
away with all options was Pascal - designed by one person and then
imposed on the world by force of personality.

Dean would like to go to SIP 3.0 and do the same thing, but
unfortunately the world is not listening, and are busy developing SIP
2.0 instead.

Regards

Keith

> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipping-bounces@ietf.org 
> [mailto:sipping-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Georgescu
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:09 PM
> To: Paul Kyzivat
> Cc: sipping@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Sipping] [RAI] Expert review of 
> draft-sinnreich-sip-tools-03
> 
> 
> On Oct 22, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> 
> > Most who have worked on sip for awhile would probably agree 
> that if we 
> > could start over with a clean slate and all that we now 
> know we could 
> > create something simpler and better. But there is too much 
> investment 
> > in implementations of what we have, making a clean slate 
> infeasible. 
> > We are stuck with what we can do in an evolutionary way.
> 
> I wish we do not have to be stuck in the infinite complexity 
> created by our past mistakes. Unless you are talking about 
> some terminal desease or the like you can always fix a bad 
> decision your took in the past with a good decision you take now.
> 
> Or to quote from a book I read  "Any mistakes you commit 
> through audacity are easily corrected with more audacity". 
> Don't know who wrote this.
> 
> Adrian
> 
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