[Sipping] Re: [spitstop] Spit Score Semantics
Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com> Thu, 22 November 2007 19:46 UTC
Return-path: <sipping-bounces@ietf.org>
Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=stiedprmman1.va.neustar.com) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvI0b-0007KK-30; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:46:45 -0500
Received: from sipping by megatron.ietf.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IvI0Z-00075r-9F for sipping-confirm+ok@megatron.ietf.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:46:43 -0500
Received: from [10.90.34.44] (helo=chiedprmail1.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvI0Y-00073U-U9 for sipping@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:46:42 -0500
Received: from [74.95.2.169] (helo=delta.rtfm.com) by chiedprmail1.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IvI0Y-0003Cn-In for sipping@ietf.org; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:46:42 -0500
Received: from delta.rtfm.com (localhost.rtfm.com [127.0.0.1]) by delta.rtfm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E0B33C23; Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:41:38 -0800 (PST)
Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:41:38 -0800
From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@networkresonance.com>
To: Saverio Niccolini <Saverio.Niccolini@nw.neclab.eu>
In-Reply-To: <5F6519BF2DE0404D99B7C75607FF76FF317B28@mx1.office>
References: <113091BD57179D4491C19DA7E10CD6960193DBB7@mx1.office> <136AA3EA-D480-4EDA-BDFF-4D75F7EAC02B@cisco.com> <5F6519BF2DE0404D99B7C75607FF76FF317B28@mx1.office>
User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.14.0 (Africa) Emacs/21.3 Mule/5.0 (SAKAKI)
MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka")
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Message-Id: <20071122194138.84E0B33C23@delta.rtfm.com>
X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: ffa9dfbbe7cc58b3fa6b8ae3e57b0aa3
Cc: jon.peterson@neustar.biz, Jan Seedorf <Jan.Seedorf@nw.neclab.eu>, sipping@ietf.org, Signaling TO Prevent SPIT <spitstop@listserv.netlab.nec.de>
Subject: [Sipping] Re: [spitstop] Spit Score Semantics
X-BeenThere: sipping@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: "SIPPING Working Group \(applications of SIP\)" <sipping.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping>, <mailto:sipping-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:sipping@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sipping-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping>, <mailto:sipping-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Errors-To: sipping-bounces@ietf.org
At Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:43:54 +0100, Saverio Niccolini wrote: > all we were trying to do was to answer the question about semantics > raised by Henning some time ago. He was arguing that without semantics > the spam score has no meaning and that is why we answered to it (after > thinking quite some time...). > > As you know some examples of architecture are out already together with a > reference scenario (draft expired): > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-tschofenig-sipping-framework-spit-reduction-02 > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-niccolini-sipping-spitstop-00.txt > > Moreover some reference architecture for prototypes/products exist as > well (we demonstrated at last IETF our demo to interested people) > and there are scientific results in the literature that would justify > the semantics we are reporting here. Saverio, I'd be very interested in reading these results. Could you please point me to the appropriate papers? Thanks, -Ekr _______________________________________________ Sipping mailing list https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipping This list is for NEW development of the application of SIP Use sip-implementors@cs.columbia.edu for questions on current sip Use sip@ietf.org for new developments of core SIP
- [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Jan Seedorf
- [Sipping] Re: Spit Score Semantics Cullen Jennings
- [Sipping] RE: [spitstop] Spit Score Semantics Saverio Niccolini
- [Sipping] Re: [spitstop] Spit Score Semantics Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Hannes Tschofenig
- RE: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Saverio Niccolini
- Re: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Eric Rescorla
- RE: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Hadriel Kaplan
- RE: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Saverio Niccolini
- [Sipping] RE: Spit Score Semantics Dan Wing
- RE: [Sipping] Spit Score Semantics Jan Seedorf
- [Sipping] RE: [spitstop] Spit Score Semantics Jan Seedorf