Re: [Slim] WG Action: Formed Selection of Language for Internet Media (slim)
Nik Tomkinson <rfc.nik.tomkinson@gmail.com> Mon, 19 October 2015 19:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Slim] WG Action: Formed Selection of Language for Internet Media (slim)
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Hi All, I mentioned this off list to Randall, but the Milestone for draft-tomkinson-slim-multilangcontent needs to be updated to Mar 2016 as there is some testing required for further refinement and also some thinking on a new section so this will not meet the original deadline of November. Can this get updated please? Thanks, Nik. On 16 October 2015 at 17:53, The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org> wrote: > A new IETF working group has been formed in the Applications and > Real-Time Area. For additional information please contact the Area > Directors or the WG Chairs. > > Selection of Language for Internet Media (slim) > ------------------------------------------------ > Current Status: Proposed WG > > Chairs: > Bernard Aboba <Bernard_Aboba@hotmail.com> > N Rooney <nrooney@gsma.com> > > Assigned Area Director: > Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> > > Mailing list > Address: slim@ietf.org > To Subscribe: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/slim > Archive: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/slim/ > > Charter: > > A mutually comprehensible language is helpful for human communication. > This is true across a range of circumstances and environments. In > general, the problem is most acute in situations where there is not a > clear choice for a single language, such as environments lacking > contextual or out-of-band information regarding the identity of the > parties and the language to be used. > > The group will address two specific cases that most urgently need a > technical solution: One problem space is non-real-time communication, > specifically email for one-to-many or where the set of recipients is > dynamic or different recipients require different languages; the other > is real-time communication, specifically emergency calling, preferably > also useful for other cases where the parties may not know each other > personally or where one party wishes to accommodate people with varying > language and media needs. > > In the real-time communication case, language and media are > intrinsically linked, for example, signed languages require a video > media. > > While the two use cases are in different contexts (real time and > non-real-time), the fundamental goal is the same: to enable selection of > the best-fit language(s) for a specific situation. Some of the details > will also be in common across the cases, e.g., the language tags. > Having a single WG address both cases makes it clear that these are two > aspects of the same basic problem. A single WG also makes it easier to > maximize similarities and avoid unnecessary fragmentation of the > solutions and facilitates broader review. > > The group will start by producing specifications for email and for > real-time communications. > > In the email case, the group will determine a MIME based solution (based > on draft-tomkinson-slim-multilangcontent) that enables a single email > message to contain multiple language versions of the content, with > provisions to help clients select a best-fit version. > > In the real-time communication case, the group will produce a > specification (based on draft-gellens-slim-negotiating-human-language) > enabling negotiation of a human language per media stream. The > specification must be suitable for use in emergency communications as > specified in RFC 6443 and RFC 6881 (which use SIP and SDP to negotiate > media); it is desirable to also be suitable for use in non-emergency > real-time communications that share the same call set-up and media > negotiation protocols. The mechanism will permit the caller's media and > language needs and preferences to be matched against what the called > party is able to provide. Alternatives such as doing the media > negotiation in SIP have been explored in the past and are out of scope > (although SIP-based mechanisms may be introduced when routing > considerations are addressed). > > The group's initial focus will not be on supporting language-based call > routing decisions. Once the initial work is sufficiently progressed, the > group may address call routing, with the timing at the judgment of the > chairs. > > Recognizing that complex solutions are significantly less > likely to see widespread deployment, the group will solve the most > common use cases and avoid adding complexity to solve edge or > less-common cases. > > By adding language to the existing media negotiation mechanism as used > in RFC 6443 and RFC 6881, the group can meet the basic use cases with > minimal added complexity and be able to enhance later for additional use > cases as needed. > > Milestones: > Nov 2015 - Submit "Multiple Language Content Type" to the IESG (based > on draft-tomkinson-slim-multilangcontent) > Mar 2016 - Submit "Negotiating Human Language in Real-Time > Communications" to the IESG (based on > draft-gellens-slim-negotiating-human-language) > > > _______________________________________________ > SLIM mailing list > SLIM@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/slim > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Multiple Language Content Type Internet Draft: <http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tomkinson-multilangcontent/> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-tomkinson-slim-multilangcontent/ -----------------------------------------------------------------
- [Slim] WG Action: Formed Selection of Language fo… The IESG
- Re: [Slim] WG Action: Formed Selection of Languag… Nik Tomkinson
- Re: [Slim] WG Action: Formed Selection of Languag… Natasha Rooney