Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (4774)
Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com> Sat, 13 August 2016 17:03 UTC
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From: Jim Schaad <ietf@augustcellars.com>
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Subject: Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (4774)
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The first half of this errata must be rejected. We do not change the ASN.1 for something like this under just about any circumstances. Changing the recommendation of a value should probably not be done by an erratum but by publishing a new document. We could make discuss and make the recommendation change in the new S/MIME document in the LAMPS group rather than in this document. Jim > -----Original Message----- > From: smime [mailto:smime-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of RFC Errata System > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:48 AM > To: housley@vigilsec.com; stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie; > Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com; paul.hoffman@vpnc.org; > blaker@gmail.com > Cc: quannguyen@google.com; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org; smime@ietf.org > Subject: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (4774) > > The following errata report has been submitted for RFC5084, "Using AES-CCM > and AES-GCM Authenticated Encryption in the Cryptographic Message Syntax > (CMS)". > > -------------------------------------- > You may review the report below and at: > http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=5084&eid=4774 > > -------------------------------------- > Type: Technical > Reported by: QUAN NGUYEN <quannguyen@google.com> > > Section: 3.2 > > Original Text > ------------- > aes-ICVlen AES-GCM-ICVlen DEFAULT 12 > > A length of 12 octets is RECOMMENDED. > > Corrected Text > -------------- > aes-ICVlen AES-GCM-ICVlen DEFAULT 16 > > A length of 16 octets is RECOMMENDED. > > Notes > ----- > Many JCE providers including OpenJDK, BouncyCastle, Conscrypt have a bug to > use 12 bytes authentication tag (aes-ICVlen) as default if the code path [1] uses > CMS. According to Ferguson's attack > (http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/toolkit/BCM/documents/comments/CWC- > GCM/Ferguson2.pdf), if a user encrypts 2^32 block length message, then 12 > bytes authentication tag length has only 96 - 32 = 64 bits security which is not > good enough nowadays. Furthermore, once a forgery happens then > authentication is leaked. > > [1] In other code paths, all providers use 16 bytes authentication tag as default. > > Instructions: > ------------- > This erratum is currently posted as "Reported". If necessary, please use "Reply > All" to discuss whether it should be verified or rejected. When a decision is > reached, the verifying party (IESG) can log in to change the status and edit the > report, if necessary. > > -------------------------------------- > RFC5084 (draft-ietf-smime-cms-aes-ccm-and-gcm-03) > -------------------------------------- > Title : Using AES-CCM and AES-GCM Authenticated Encryption in the > Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) > Publication Date : November 2007 > Author(s) : R. Housley > Category : PROPOSED STANDARD > Source : S/MIME Mail Security > Area : Security > Stream : IETF > Verifying Party : IESG > > _______________________________________________ > smime mailing list > smime@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/smime
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Quan Nguyen
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Quan Nguyen
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Jim Schaad
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Quan Nguyen
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Russ Housley
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Quan Nguyen
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Quan Nguyen
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Quan Nguyen
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Russ Housley
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Russ Housley
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Sean Leonard
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [smime] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC5084 (… Jim Schaad
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