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Re: [Sml] IETF 116 follow up / Draft charter

John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Thu, 29 June 2023 17:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sml] IETF 116 follow up / Draft charter
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It appears that Dave Crocker  <dcrocker@bbiw.net> said:
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>On 6/29/2023 8:29 AM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
>> I requested this for the BoF description, I think, and I'm feeling 
>> like the concern is still there:
>>
>> Can we add a sentence or two on how this is different from MIME, to 
>> set context for people not already involved in the work?

It's not clear to me whether the goal is to standardize the JSON
embedded in web pages as currently implemented, or to come up with
some MIME containers that are less of a kludge, or something else.

R's,
John

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