[Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P" flag set suitable?
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 21 November 2025 19:29 UTC
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Subject: [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P" flag set suitable?
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Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
> Consider the bad home router case. In this case, the home router is in violation of RFC7084:
> WAA-1: The IPv6 CE router MUST support Stateless Address
> Autoconfiguration (SLAAC) [RFC4862].
Support != enable!
{I think that I can explicitely turn off SLAAC on OpenWRT, relying on DHCPv6-only}
> So I think we don't need to address this case, because non-conformant
> home routers should be out of scope. E.g., a home router MUST NOT
I think that word non-conformant is incorrect, but I agree that it probably
should be out-of-scope.
...
> It's of course possible that the operator of a home router might turn
> off SLAAC, but in that case you have a managed network. Which brings us
> to the second case—a misconfigured or deliberately configured managed
> network.
Agreed: This might have been done by an incompetent ISP.
So in this case, we need enough text for an end-user to hit them over the head.
> If it's deliberately configured this way, then I think it makes sense
> to follow the operator's intention. Our goal here is not to make every
> network SNAC-capable, but rather to make sure that when SNAC should
> work, it does work. In this case, the operator has clearly decided that
> SNAC shouldn't work for hosts that don't do IA_PA (or possibly
> IA_NA). I think it's fine for us to not solve this problem.
+1
The STUB network could well work via PD (or ULA+NAT64 even), but not interact
with the AIL. We should document this limitation clearly then.
_It's working as intended_
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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P" fla… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Michael Richardson
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Michael Richardson
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Esko Dijk
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Michael Richardson
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Ted Lemon
- [Snac] Re: Why is an AIL prefix with only the "P"… Michael Richardson