Re: [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 10 November 2020 09:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling
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Hi all, On 09/11/2020 23:29, Russ Housley wrote: > DKG: > >> On Fri 2020-10-02 10:33:10 -0400, Russ Housley wrote: >> >>> Please take a look at RFC 5322, Section 3.6.3. The proposed direction >>> seems to be consistent, but you probably want to cite this section. >> Thanks for this pointer, Russ. Bcc is a surprisingly tricky thing to >> get right in all cases. >> >> In addition to the guidance in the section you cite, there are unusual >> tricks or special cases that responsible MUAs will want to do to deal >> with Bcc in "Sent" folders and "Drafts" folders (the semantics of these >> folders in most MUAs are subtly different from other folders, and from >> each other). Also, there are some subtleties when dealing with Bcc for >> encrypted e-mail (regardless of header protection) -- i've added a note >> in the to-do list in https://gitlab.com/dkg/e2e-mail-guidance to try to >> flesh those out. >> >> But after some discussion with Alexey and Bernie, i think we're reaching >> the conclusion that as complex as the work around Bcc is, it's pretty >> much orthogonal to protected headers -- if you are doing the right thing >> with Bcc already, you're likely going to do the right thing with Bcc >> when generating a message with protected headers and Bcc. (Conversely, >> a MUA that screws up Bcc isn't likely to magically get it right because >> they're implementing protected headers) >> I'll make an edit to the header protection draft that simplifies the >> text about Bcc, includes the reference you mention above, and otherwise >> doesn't drag the draft into too much detail. > Good observations. Sounds like a reasonable way forward. To clarify my position: I am happy to take Bcc discussion out of the Header Protection draft, but I would still like to do this work in LAMPS. Best Regards, Alexey
- [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling Bernie Hoeneisen
- Re: [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] HP Issue: Bcc Handling Alexey Melnikov