Re: [lamps] Draft IETF 118 Agenda for LAMPS

Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Mon, 30 October 2023 14:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [lamps] Draft IETF 118 Agenda for LAMPS
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I think it would be helpful to capture a bit of design rationale (maybe in an appendix).  At first scan, this seems similar to RFC 5697.  I think I understand the differences, but it would be better to write down the ones that drove you to write the document.

Russ

> On Oct 27, 2023, at 1:36 PM, John Gray <John.Gray=40entrust.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> We would also like a slot for this draft as well:
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> https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-lamps-okubo-certdiscovery-00.html
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> Cheers,
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> John Gray
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> From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Mike Ounsworth
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 1:06 PM
> To: Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek=40digicert.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:tim.hollebeek=40digicert.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>; David Hook <David.Hook@keyfactor.com <mailto:David.Hook@keyfactor.com>>
> Cc: SPASM <spasm@ietf.org <mailto:spasm@ietf.org>>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [lamps] Draft IETF 118 Agenda for LAMPS
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> Hi Tim, Add to agenda please: draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-sigs (John) draft-ounsworth-lamps-cms-dhkem (Mike) – this is an ECDH-KEM sister to 5990 and a necessary dependency of draft-ietf-lamps-composite-kem. I can do a slide on it during 
> Hi Tim,
>  
> Add to agenda please:
>  
> draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-sigs (John)
> draft-ounsworth-lamps-cms-dhkem (Mike) – this is an ECDH-KEM sister to 5990 and a necessary dependency of draft-ietf-lamps-composite-kem. I can do a slide on it during the composite-kem presentation if you prefer that over a separate presentation, but it should probably be on the agenda regardless.
> draft-ounsworth-lamps-pq-external-pubkeys (Mike; or maybe I’ll throw @David Hook <mailto:David.Hook@keyfactor.com> under the bus to present this one since it’s his customer that asked for this to be implemented in BouncyCastle)
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> Mike Ounsworth
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> From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Tim Hollebeek
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 10:56 AM
> To: Brockhaus, Hendrik <hendrik.brockhaus=40siemens.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:hendrik.brockhaus=40siemens.com@dmarc.ietf.org>>
> Cc: SPASM <spasm@ietf.org <mailto:spasm@ietf.org>>; Tschofenig, Hannes <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [lamps] Draft IETF 118 Agenda for LAMPS
>  
> Added to the agenda.  We might not get to it, but we’ll do our best.  There are a lot of items, but many of them are small and have pretty straightforward statuses.  We also allocated quite a bit of time to LAMPS to accommodate all the work that is going on (3 hours across 2 sessions).
>  
> -Tim
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> From: Brockhaus, Hendrik <hendrik.brockhaus=40siemens.com@dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:hendrik.brockhaus=40siemens.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> 
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2023 3:47 AM
> To: Tim Hollebeek <tim.hollebeek@digicert.com <mailto:tim.hollebeek@digicert.com>>
> Cc: SPASM <spasm@ietf.org <mailto:spasm@ietf.org>>; Tschofenig, Hannes <hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com <mailto:hannes.tschofenig@siemens.com>>
> Subject: AW: Draft IETF 118 Agenda for LAMPS
>  
> Hello Tim
>  
> Hannes and I would like to present draft-tschofenig-lamps-nonce-cmp-est.
> Can you add this to the agenda or do we already have too many topics.
>  
> Hendrik
>  
> Von: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org>> Im Auftrag von Tim Hollebeek
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2023 17:33
> An: SPASM <spasm@ietf.org <mailto:spasm@ietf.org>>
> Betreff: [lamps] Draft IETF 118 Agenda for LAMPS
>  
> LAMPS WG Agenda at IETF 118 -- Monday, 6 November 2023 at 17:30 local and Wednesday, 8 November 2023 at 14:30 local
>  
> 0)  Minute Taker, Jabber Scribe, Bluesheets
>  
> 1)  Agenda Bash
>  
> 2)  Recently Published RFCs
>     a)  draft-ietf-lamps-caa-issuemail published as RFC 9495
>  
> 3)  With the IESG or the RFC Editor
>     a)  draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-algorithms (Hendrik, Hans, Mike, John)
>     b)  draft-ietf-lamps-cmp-updates (Hendrik, David, John)
>     c)  draft-ietf-lamps-lightweight-cmp-profile (Hendrik, Steffen, David)
>     f)  draft-ietf-lamps-cms-kemri (Russ, John, Tomo)
>     g)  draft-ietf-lamps-nf-eku (Tirumal, Jani, Daniel)                        
>  
> 4)  Active PKIX-related Documents
>     a)  draft-ietf-lamps-rfc4210bis (Hendrik, David, Mike, John)
>     b)  draft-ietf-lamps-rfc6712bis (Hendrik, David, Mike, John)
>     c)  draft-ietf-lamps-pkcs12-pbmac1 (Hubert)
>     d)  draft-ietf-lamps-rfc7030-csrattrs (Michael)
>     e)  draft-ietf-lamps-key-attestation-ext (Carl, Sean)                       [replace or merge with draft-ietf-lamps-csr-attestation?]
>     f)  draft-ietf-lamps-dilithium-certificates (Jake, Panos, Sean, Bas)
>     g)  draft-ietf-lamps-kyber-certificates (Sean, Panos, Jake, Bas)
>     h)  draft-ietf-lamps-cert-binding-for-multi-auth (Alie, Rebecca, Mike)      [WGLC requested]
>     j)  draft-ietf-lamps-x509-policy-graph (David)
>     k)  draft-ietf-lamps-csr-attestation (Mike)
>     a)  draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5019bis (Corey)                    
>  
> 5)  Active S/MIME-related Documents
>     e)  draft-ietf-lamps-header-protection (DKG, Alexey, Bernie)                [in WG Last Call]
>     a)  draft-ietf-lamps-cms-kyber (Ludovic, Julien, Mike)
>     b)  draft-ietf-lamps-cms-sphincs-plus (Russ, Scott, Panos, Bas)
>     d)  draft-ietf-lamps-rfc5990bis (Russ)                                      [WGLC requested]
>     e)  draft-ietf-lamps-pq-composite-kem (Mike, John)
>     f)  draft-ietf-lamps-e2e-mail-guidance (DKG)                                [In WGLC, issues being resolved]
>     g)  draft-ietf-lamps-rfc8398bis/draft-ietf-lamps-rfc8399bis (Alexey, Wei, Corey)
>  
> 6)  Under consideration for adoption
>     b)  draft-mpalmer-key-compromise-attestation (Matt)
>     c)  CMC-bis: draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis, draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis, draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis (Sean)
>     d)  draft-housley-lamps-cms-sha3-hash (Russ)                                [Adoption call requested]
>  
> 7)  Wrap up
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