Re: [lamps] IETF 116 Hackathon "PQ Use in the Read world: X.509 Keys, signatures, certificates and protocols"

[Mike Ounsworth <[e-mail]>]

Thank you so much John for all your work in keeping this hackathon group organized!!

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Mike Ounsworth
Software Security Architect, Entrust

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The IETF Hackathon for PQ Keys and Signatures has been continuing to meet monthly since the IETF 115 Hackathon, and we will be meeting for the IETF 116 hackathon in Yokohama!   You can check out the details on the official IETF 116 hackathon wiki page:  https://wiki.ietf.org/e/en/meeting/116/hackathon<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/wiki.ietf.org/e/en/meeting/116/hackathon__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkyq8fdwVHg$>

We are the project named "PQ Use in the real world:  X.509 keys, signatures, certificates and protocols".

I modified the name to try and better reflect what we are trying to accomplish.

At our last monthly meeting, we talked about the scope of the project for this hackathon and the following items were suggested.

  *   Compatibility matrix filled out in more detail, with cross-wise matrix
  *   Continue PQ key and certificate testing and expand with KEM
  *   PQ support in CMS and CMP seem like a logical goal
  *   Explicit composite support (see composite drafts)
  *   Cert Binding Hybrid Extension (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-becker-guthrie-cert-binding-for-multi-auth/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkyoA2UnKhA$>)
  *   Isara Catalyst Hybrid (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-truskovsky-lamps-pq-hybrid-x509-01<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-truskovsky-lamps-pq-hybrid-x509-01__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkypXxou5nQ$> )  this has been mentioned a lot, but it is an expired draft, so perhaps we need to first bring it out of its slumber?
There was a lot of collaboration between the onsite and virtual attendance at IETF 115.   For the virtual attendance, we will again use the gather town tool to meet at table G in the hackathon room:  See https://app.gather.town/app/L4fNNdm1NJa1sE2v/ietf<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/app.gather.town/app/L4fNNdm1NJa1sE2v/ietf__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkyqiBokb8Q$>

We have set aside the following times for collaboration between the on-site participants and virtual attendance:
March 25th 11:00 pm and 4:00 pm JST (UTC+9)
March 26th 1:00 pm JST (UTC+9)

These times are listed on the teams schedule:  https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/116/hackathon/teamschedule<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/wiki.ietf.org/meeting/116/hackathon/teamschedule__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkyogIzVtOg$>

Our github repository is here:
https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkyoZHpPBtQ$>

You will find the monthly minutes posted in the discussion section of the repository:
https://github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates/discussions<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/IETF-Hackathon/pqc-certificates/discussions__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!bmf8pTDbL4yJhGSwgGySSILtqmk3jbxjNZYDUE7QWbNV5-zj2NKz7kwMXUv0qgDMone3oS7zY-18APQiM335DgWQ5Tcm3HxNkyp-u3E5qQ$>


Hope to see you in there in person, or virtually!


John Gray
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