[lamps] rfc7030-est clarifications and LAMPS charter

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 26 July 2019 20:47 UTC

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Subject: [lamps] rfc7030-est clarifications and LAMPS charter
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secdispatch said that
  https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-lamps-rfc7030est-clarify/

belongs in LAMPS.  The word was that the charter did not include fixing
things.  The first paragragh includes:

   "Some updates have been proposed to the X.509 certificate documents
    produced by the PKIX Working Group and the electronic mail security
    documents produced by the S/MIME Working Group.

    The LAMPS (Limited Additional Mechanisms for PKIX and SMIME) Working
    Group is chartered to make updates where there is a known constituency
    interested in real deployment and there is at least one sufficiently
    well specified approach to the update so that the working group can
    sensibly evaluate whether to adopt a proposal."

but the last paragraph says:

    "In addition, the LAMPS WG may investigate other updates to documents
    produced by the PKIX and S/MIME WGs, but the LAMPS WG shall not adopt
    any of these potential work items without rechartering."

so I guess despite the weasel room at the beginning, it has to add
a #. point for RFC7030.  We have also discussed doing a light CMP profile.

Maybe a single point could say something about updates to Certificate
Enrollment protocols, include EST and CMP.

In the meantime, I need help evaluating the comments in
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid4384

I simply don't have the ASN.1-fu to understand &Type.

}Section 4.5.2 says:
}CsrAttrs ::= SEQUENCE SIZE (0..MAX) OF AttrOrOID
}
}AttrOrOID ::= CHOICE (oid OBJECT IDENTIFIER, attribute Attribute }
}
}Attribute { ATTRIBUTE:IOSet } ::= SEQUENCE {
}     type   ATTRIBUTE.&id({IOSet}),
}     values SET SIZE(1..MAX) OF ATTRIBUTE.&Type({IOSet}{@type}) }
]It should say:
}
}AttrOrOID ::= CHOICE {
}      oid OBJECT IDENTIFIER,
}      attribute Attribute{YouNeedToDefineOrReferenceAnObjectSet}
}}

I presumed that while the ATTRIBUTE.&Type({IOSet}{@type}) was pretty much
not understandable to me, that it was legitimate.  I didn't know exactly
what the series of SET/SEQ it represented, but I just tweaked a bit
and matched against the examples shown.  I wound up with:
   Attribute = [ rfc822Name-OID, { [rfc822Name-value] } ]

[]-seq
{}-set

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