Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: CMCbis I-Ds
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From: Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com>
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: CMCbis I-Ds
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Hey Russ, Yes. Both KEM certificates themselves, and also KEM-based PoP and encryption mechanisms. I'm happy to help with that part of Joseph and Sean's draft. - Mike Ounsworth ________________________________ From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 11:32:29 AM To: LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [lamps] CMCbis I-Ds It seems to me that we need to adopt some documents in order to support KEM certificates in CMC. This seems like a good start. What do others think? Russ On Mar 5, 2024, at 5: 48 PM, Joseph Mandel <jmandel66@ gmail. com> wrote: Hi all,Sean It seems to me that we need to adopt some documents in order to support KEM certificates in CMC. This seems like a good start. What do others think? Russ On Mar 5, 2024, at 5:48 PM, Joseph Mandel <jmandel66@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, Sean and I posted new versions of CMCbis I-Ds with links below. We have added a module to support new HMAC algorithms in PBKDF2, replaced TLS 1.0 with TLS 1.2, and updated the overview of RFC 5274bis which lead to minor changes in section naming and numbering. A few items we would like to include in the next version, with support from the WG include management of KEM certificates in 5272, consider AuthEnvelopedData in 5273, and updating the Cryptographic Algorithm Requirements in 5274. We would like to ask for WG adoption and time on the agenda to discuss the open issues. Thanks, Joe A new version of Internet-Draft draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Joe Mandel and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis Revision: 02 Title: Certificate Management over CMS (CMC) Date: 2024-03-04 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 99 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02.txt__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBB0I9IRS$> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBJHZdd78$> HTML: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02.html__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBCg7Vdgr$> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBOW8dyYZ$> Diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-02__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBHmqqj1v$> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Joseph Mandel and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis Revision: 02 Title: Certificate Management over CMS (CMC): Transport Protocols Date: 2024-03-04 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 9 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis-02.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis-02.txt__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBO5cBOhc$> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBKuRlRxz$> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBGR6pWUt$> Diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis-02<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5273bis-02__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBLvyKCqM$> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Joseph Mandel and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis Revision: 02 Title: Certificate Management Messages over CMS (CMC): Compliance Requirements Date: 2024-03-04 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 14 URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis-02.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis-02.txt__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBIrgBnTn$> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis/__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBHa0dyeA$> HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBMU9pphB$> Diff: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis-02<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5274bis-02__;!!FJ-Y8qCqXTj2!YzRYtLBUBb4hQrToG7NzRBW5Q9eDkjRJw3xHE2FNttKKXNuRj9ZRjqzw81R1Hbz02BreW148v3CCluchfLaoBM4qqX1o$> From: Spasm <spasm-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:spasm-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com<mailto:sean@sn3rd.com>> Date: Monday, January 8, 2024 at 1:23 PM To: LAMPS <spasm@ietf.org<mailto:spasm@ietf.org>> Subject: [lamps] CMCbis I-Ds Hi! Joe and I have posted new versions of the CMCbis I-Ds; see the forwarded messages below. We’ve incorporated all the errata and updated to the ASN.1 from RFC 6402. The remaining major items to do like adopt the KEM POP mechanism that’s currently in CMP and tweak the requirements in 5274 are things that should probably be done under the auspices of the WG. In other words, we believe we are at the point where we’d like to ask for WG adoption. Cheers, spt > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> > Subject: New Version Notification for draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-01.txt > Date: January 8, 2024 at 15:52:09 EST > To: "Joseph Mandel (editor)" <joe@akayla.com<mailto:joe@akayla.com>>, "Sean Turner (editor)" <sean@sn3rd.com<mailto:sean@sn3rd.com>>, "Joe Mandel" <joe@akayla.com<mailto:joe@akayla.com>>, "Sean Turner" <sean@sn3rd.com<mailto:sean@sn3rd.com>> > > A new version of Internet-Draft draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis-01.txt has been > successfully submitted by Joe Mandel and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-mandel-lamps-rfc5272bis > Revision: 01 > Title: Certificate Management over CMS (CMC) > Date: 2024-01-08 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 97 > URL: 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