[lamps] Explicit vs generic composite
Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com> Mon, 08 November 2021 20:38 UTC
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From: Mike Ounsworth <Mike.Ounsworth@entrust.com>
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Subject: [lamps] Explicit vs generic composite
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Hi Lamps! It seemed pretty clear from today's meeting that the community would prefer NOT to do any sort of generic structure, and would prefer explicit pairwise OIDs - and in fact more than that, unroll any alg params into the OID as well so that the OID is parameter-less. I don't think there's anything to discuss here, unless there are dissenting opinions. If there's no discussion, then I guess we'll dispose of our draft-ounsworth-pq-composite-keys-00 and proceed with draft-ounsworth-pq-explicit-composite-keys-00 (which we're gonna need some ASN.1 help on). --- Mike Ounsworth Software Security Architect, Entrust Any email and files/attachments transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If this message has been sent to you in error, you must not copy, distribute or disclose of the information it contains. Please notify Entrust immediately and delete the message from your system.
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